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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
I would call and ask them for weight over the nose and report back.

Are they know to be super heavy? I'm more just curious about them. My buddy mentioned them a few weeks ago, I hadn't seen em yet and have always figured I'd just do bushed stockers on my build anyway.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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Are they know to be super heavy? I'm more just curious about them. My buddy mentioned them a few weeks ago, I hadn't seen em yet and have always figured I'd just do bushed stockers on my build anyway.
From what Ive read about the setup, Comp uses stock rockers on them.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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This is interesting as I actually met and spoke with a Comp rep today. Those can also be setup with oil squirter's. Interesting but my Straub trunion upgraded stockers should prove more than adequate.
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 04:36 AM
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Whichever route you choose, you'll likely need a stronger spring to control the extra weight over the tip. So keep that in mind. My vote is TSP roller rockers if you need want a set of roller tips.
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 09:29 AM
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I run these and they work well
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 06:59 PM
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I have been looking at heads the last few days, TSP CNC porting the heads I have, TSP 255's, AFR Mongoose. I also sent an information request to Comp Cams and among other things asked them to recommend full roller rockers.

Here is my cam.


The trunnions were upgraded and the springs will support the cam. V-3 Si, 3.6", headers. Nothing too serious.

Comp Cams said the cam and mods I have are a good match and "On the LS engines, a roller rocker arm does not really benefit you at all. The stock rockers work great."

Which I found rather curious. I asked for more information to help me understand but have not received an answer yet.

Someone mentioned the Comp Ultra Pro Mags. If I had to buy some today, that would be it.
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveJewels
I have been looking at heads the last few days, TSP CNC porting the heads I have, TSP 255's, AFR Mongoose. I also sent an information request to Comp Cams and among other things asked them to recommend full roller rockers.

Here is my cam.


The trunnions were upgraded and the springs will support the cam. V-3 Si, 3.6", headers. Nothing too serious.

Comp Cams said the cam and mods I have are a good match and "On the LS engines, a roller rocker arm does not really benefit you at all. The stock rockers work great."

Which I found rather curious. I asked for more information to help me understand but have not received an answer yet.

Someone mentioned the Comp Ultra Pro Mags. If I had to buy some today, that would be it.
Bad move. Only need enough rocker and spring to support the combo. Any extra will add weight and parasitic loss. A quality spring for that cam and stock rockers will be the most efficient and lightest possible setup for max durability and increased rpm potential
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Old Aug 9, 2020 | 01:21 AM
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Running that much lift on stock rockers I won't do but I guess that's just me.
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Originally Posted by bortous
Running that much lift on stock rockers I won't do but I guess that's just me.
Stocks will be fine on that. Been running .650 lift for almost 40K miles on stock rockers.
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Old Aug 10, 2020 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Bad move. Only need enough rocker and spring to support the combo. Any extra will add weight and parasitic loss. A quality spring for that cam and stock rockers will be the most efficient and lightest possible setup for max durability and increased rpm potential

I understand. Thanks for the input.
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Old Aug 10, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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I received a reply today from Comp Cams regarding full roller rockers being unnecessary.

"GM designed the rocker arms so well, that rollers do not benefit as well unless you are going big duration, real high lift and big rpm racing application. I've seen tests where they gained less than 5 hp with a full roller 1.8 rocker on a stock engine. There just isn't a big benefit on them."
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Old Aug 10, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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I've got about 15K miles on my stock LS7 rockers with the CHE Trunion upgrade.
My cam is .648"/.648" lift and I run BTR .660" Platinum Springs and Ti Retainers. I shift it at 7100 rpm on a daily basis.
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Old Aug 10, 2020 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bortous
Running that much lift on stock rockers I won't do but I guess that's just me.
Stock rockers are fine to .660. Been proven time and again. Even the almighty Katech said there fine to .660 on a CHE bushed setup
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 05:38 PM
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Check out the WS6 Store/RMP Speed "Max Effort" rockers. They are stock style, but have upgraded bearings that will not fall out. Those are what I am planning to run.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 07:25 PM
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Doesnt summit sell the factory ones with upgrade installed for < 300 bucks?
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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From my research, the WS6 Store ones have a better bearing setup then stock or the trunion upgrades.
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Old Aug 26, 2020 | 09:28 PM
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Stock rockers are good keep them!!


Upgrade to 1 piece bronze bushing’s - no needle bearings.

https://www.motionraceworks.com/prod...f-16-sblst-kit




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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ColeGTO
I've got about 15K miles on my stock LS7 rockers with the CHE Trunion upgrade.
My cam is .648"/.648" lift and I run BTR .660" Platinum Springs and Ti Retainers. I shift it at 7100 rpm on a daily basis.
Have you ever pulled your rockers yer to look at the CHE bushing yet? It would be a good “piece of mind “ for everyone who confide ring them
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
Have you ever pulled your rockers yer to look at the CHE bushing yet? It would be a good “piece of mind “ for everyone who confide ring them
I did this with mine earlier this year. I after 8000 very hard miles with a 232/234 .600/.600 cam, they looked great. Barely any signs of wear at all. I'll try to find my post with pictures.

Edit: Post 182 in this thread.

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Old Aug 29, 2020 | 10:35 AM
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If I recall correctly, the WS6 Store rockers use needle bearings, but are designed so that it is impossible for them to come out. This would eliminate the need to periodically check the bushings.
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