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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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What kind of intake flow are people getting out of max ported GM 243 heads with oversized valves? I have to use the GM 243 head for the class I want to run.

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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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~324cfm @ 0.60 lift, from a 227cc intake port...
~230cfm @ 0.60 lift, from a 78cc exhaust port.
4.03" bore plate, 2.08/1.60 valves
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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318cfm @ .600" with a 228cc Intake Runner
226cfm @ .600" with a 82cc Exhaust
3.900" plate with 2.040" Intake 1.575" Exhaust

This is using a SF-1020 Flowbench, most using a SF-600 will show about 10-15cfm more.
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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301CFM @ .600
233CFM @ .600 (W/PIPE)
3.900 PLATE with stock valves (2.00/1.55)

I did these myself, I did not cc them.

the reason the exhaust flowed so much is because I modified the shape of the valves. Minimal material was taken from the ports. I'll cc them next time the engine is apart, but the ports are still very small and the engine is very torquey still.

WHOOPS. I noticed now the original post said oversize vales and max ported. thats what i get for quick reading.

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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
301CFM @ .600
233CFM @ .600 (W/PIPE)
3.900 PLATE with stock valves (2.00/1.55)

I did these myself, I did not cc them.

the reason the exhaust flowed so much is because I modified the shape of the valves. Minimal material was taken from the ports. I'll cc them next time the engine is apart, but the ports are still very small and the engine is very torquey still.

WHOOPS. I noticed now the original post said oversize vales and max ported. thats what i get for quick reading.
Looks pretty good for stock valves!
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
301CFM @ .600
233CFM @ .600 (W/PIPE)
3.900 PLATE with stock valves (2.00/1.55)

I did these myself, I did not cc them.

the reason the exhaust flowed so much is because I modified the shape of the valves. Minimal material was taken from the ports. I'll cc them next time the engine is apart, but the ports are still very small and the engine is very torquey still.

WHOOPS. I noticed now the original post said oversize vales and max ported. thats what i get for quick reading.
Care to expand on this whole valve shape modification?
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Care to expand on this whole valve shape modification?
I rounded the edges on the face of the valves, so flow can go around them and into the port. picked up 5-7cfm in a back to back test. The cfm gain varied with lift. it helped most in the mid lift ranges.
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JRFed
318cfm @ .600" with a 228cc Intake Runner
226cfm @ .600" with a 82cc Exhaust
3.900" plate with 2.040" Intake 1.575" Exhaust

This is using a SF-1020 Flowbench, most using a SF-600 will show about 10-15cfm more.
​​​​​​That's pretty good for a 3.900 bore. What is typical increase going to a 4.000 bore? 10cfm?
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Check out TEA 243 stg 2 numbers . They have info on their webpage totalengineairflow

very impressive IMO. They have the option to turn down LS3 intake valves to a oversized size(stock) and light weight
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
Check out TEA 243 stg 2 numbers . They have info on their webpage totalengineairflow

very impressive IMO. They have the option to turn down LS3 intake valves to a oversized size(stock) and light weight
If I was wanting a set of ported ls2 heads the tea version would be the one to get.
Their stage 2 program is excellent.

Actually, they would have been perfect for my old ls2 408 stroker.

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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 07:29 PM
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If I were going to get ported 243s, I'd go with AI, TEA, TSP, or FED.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LSPerformance
What kind of intake flow are people getting out of max ported GM 243 heads with oversized valves? I have to use the GM 243 head for the class I want to run.
TEA, FED, AI as mentioned above.

When looking at flow numbers, especially peak flow numbers remember that's only one factor to consider of many. Looking at?thr mid lift numbers .400 to .500 are also very important.

Example - I had a set of old GMPP LS6's cleaned up in the chambers and given a new valve job. Lost 1 cfm of flow from 303 cfm to 302 cfm at .600 but they gained. ~ +10 cfm in?the mid lift numbers.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 09:05 AM
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I agree. I got a set for a future engine build too. I wanted to do a ls3 stroker though. A 402/408 or a 416 would be a great street stroker with TEA 243 stg 2 porting and a 102/102 FAST setup IMHO.

Originally Posted by bortous
If I was wanting a set of ported ls2 heads the tea version would be the one to get.
Their stage 2 program is excellent.

Actually, they would have been perfect for my old ls2 408 stroker.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 11:14 AM
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Saw a chart saying 336 cfm at .700" with a 2.055" valve in a cathedral port head.
Have a 317 head I'm going to port to see what I can get out of it with an oversized valve.



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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 01:49 PM
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To get a set of 243 heads to flow you need to work on the throat, bowl/pocket porting, and pinch points like the rocker stud boss, and pushrod pinch point. The only thing I didn't touch on my 243s is the pushrod pinch point.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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243 heads also seem to gain a lot in flow compared to other heads when ported.
Is it because they were underdone from the factory?
A gain of nearly 100cfm from stock to a tea stage 2 program is a huge improvement.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 02:45 PM
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Everyone keep in mind raw flow numbers do not indicate a good head that makes power. It's all about airspeed and the fine details the porter takes to shape the port in such a way that can maximize both flow and speed. You can have a high cfm head that doesnt make power and a head with less cfm that makes great power.
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Everyone keep in mind raw flow numbers do not indicate a good head that makes power. It's all about airspeed and the fine details the porter takes to shape the port in such a way that can maximize both flow and speed. You can have a high cfm head that doesnt make power and a head with less cfm that makes great power.
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.300, .400 and .500 are numbers are the ones to pay attention to, max flow kind of secondary.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 64post
.300, .400 and .500 are numbers are the ones to pay attention to, max flow kind of secondary.
yup. This is another reason why I mentioned TEA’s 243 stg II porting. Real good max flow and real good mid flow numbers
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