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Old 05-18-2021, 07:49 PM
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Yup. I ditched them and went with the Strano / UMI / AFCO kit
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I had a dart block engine built last year. It was run on the engine dyno primarily to make sure it was ok since it was the first ls next motor the engine builder had assembled. It was the unskirted block run with no windage tray and an f-body oil pan. Has AI ported LS7 factory heads and a Race Proven Motorsports B-3 cam. Unfortunately it was run with a factory LS7 intake and stock throttle body. It has 12:1 compression. It made 662 hp. I'll see if I can find the sheet and post it.
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​​​​​ you have a bad *** motor to go with a bad *** bird. That’s one of my dream cars.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:53 AM
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Yup AFCO or GTFO, TBH, IMO
Old 05-19-2021, 08:14 AM
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With the Fbody windage tray installed, this is what my oil psi was like. This is with a standard oil pump not a high pressure one.


This is the dyno graph.

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Incredible build Grip! Need to hit you up next time I'm visiting family in southern MB.
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Old 05-19-2021, 12:44 PM
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Top end of that graph doesn't look right. What springs and pushrods you using?

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This is the dyno graph.

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Old 05-19-2021, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Top end of that graph doesn't look right. What springs and pushrods you using?
I think it was his dyno software.

BTR ROLLER ROCKER MAX PRESSURE SPRING KIT - .650" LIFT
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
I think it was his dyno software.

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I would make sure that is actually the case. Those lines get shaky....
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At what point (spring pressure) do you go to a 3/8 pushrod? Maybe things are getting heavy in valve train after 6500 but great power output up to that point. BTR might have some stats on their set up. It appears in the numbers it drops really hard at 6300 then comes back at 6400 then drops again 6500 then bounces up at 6600.
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At what point (spring pressure) do you go to a 3/8 pushrod? Maybe things are getting heavy in valve train after 6500 but great power output up to that point. BTR might have some stats on their set up. It appears in the numbers it drops really hard at 6300 then comes back at 6400 then drops again 6500 then bounces up at 6600.
I was thinking it might indicate the need to step up to 11/32. Cathedral heads often need clearancing to run 3/8, but a 11/32 will typically work great.

@Grip - That's not a criticism of the build. I just see what honestly looks like it could be valve float and don't want to see you hurt the motor.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
I was thinking it might indicate the need to step up to 11/32. Cathedral heads often need clearancing to run 3/8, but a 11/32 will typically work great.

@Grip - That's not a criticism of the build. I just see what honestly looks like it could be valve float and don't want to see you hurt the motor.
I'll talk to the dyno guy and BTR this morning and post what they have to say.

Thanks.
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Spoke with engine builder. Hiccup with dyno. It applied the dyno brake too hard on that run for a second there. It can happen if there is a decrease in the water flow to the dyno and then all of a sudden it jumps back in and the pressure surges.

Valve float would cause the power to dip and stay down.
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
Spoke with engine builder. Hiccup with dyno. It applied the dyno brake too hard on that run for a second there. It can happen if there is a decrease in the water flow to the dyno and then all of a sudden it jumps back in and the pressure surges.

Valve float would cause the power to dip and stay down.
Cool! Glad to know there's a reason for it.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:43 PM
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Nice build that makes some stout numbers, not many of LS7 427+ NA builds on here since the boost craze took over. Glad to see some still love NA builds
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My passenger side steam vent plug leaks like crazy when the car is cold and then not a drop when the temps go above 160. Any thoughts on how I could seal it up? Tried two different plugs and an ICT crossover pipe setup as well.


Fuel rail covers are not mounted...have to fabricate some brackets for them.

Mounted the regulator on the strut tower with a custom bracket.
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Just has the injector data in there for now with very minor idle adjustments. Idling at 875 rpm for now.

Need to address the coolant leak from the passenger side coolant plug...ideas?
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Old 06-26-2021, 08:51 AM
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Nice idle clip, sounds good!
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Should rip! Nice results. I like cathedral ports ion a street engine.
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Sounds wicked


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