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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 06:16 PM
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Does NRE build boosted 454 LSX's?

NO!

If you had a tall deck then maybe so.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 08:06 PM
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How to build a FI 454.....it's done using a Tall Deck.


There's a young man who did this yrs before with his fire chicken ...

https://www.enginebuildermag.com/201...rbo-ls-engine/




Memory and Google search 😉
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ntiac-formula/
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 08:15 PM
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What he doesn't tell you is that it was with a tall deck block.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 09:28 PM
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For ANY longevity 4.155" is the max recommended bore by many builders for FI.
This is largely for having enough gasket material between bores as well as
cylinder/block strength.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 20SS06
MY BAD! I compiled images from a WhatsApp chat between me and the shop and failed to realize the dates as well as the differences in the pics! lol.

I guess the question still remain,

Would you boost a 4.200 LSX block? If so, by how much? Obviously will also be running Meth.


Thanks!
Nope not worth the risk, the head gasket seal between bores is more than likely going to end up an issue. Stay N/A or sell the block and buy another one.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
For ANY longevity 4.155" is the max recommended bore by many builders for FI.
This is largely for having enough gasket material between bores as well as
cylinder/block strength.
This. Headgasket between the cylinders is very small, which makes it weaker. I personally wouldnt hesitate to put 10lbs (ten pounds at most here) on an Iron LSX block with a 4.2 bore. The MLS headgaskets are very robust. With an aluminum block 4.2 bore you have a very thin iron liner up against a paper thin (literally) aluminum water jacket housing. With an iron block, it’s all iron, so there’s a little more strength. Is it ideal? Heck no. But for 10lbs of boost I’d try it. I’d want the best tuner in the world, AKA Darth, to ensure that there is ZERO detonation anywhere.
But indeed, 4.155 is largest recommended bore sizing for safely boosting an LS/LT engine.
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 09:52 AM
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id try it with an oring and reciever groove setup, 1/2 inch head studs
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 12:42 PM
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I was running 300 shot on a LSX 445 almost 10 years in a sleeved LS7 block that finally gave up the ghost. The block was done so guess what i did? Reused everything internally in a new Dart block with some Mast heads. Only major replacement was the pistons. Now i'm a little smaller cubic inch at 440 with a little room to grow in the cylinders. If you know how to build these things and use the right parts i wouldn't be afraid of boost at all.
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
I was running 300 shot on a LSX 445 almost 10 years in a sleeved LS7 block that finally gave up the ghost. The block was done so guess what i did? Reused everything internally in a new Dart block with some Mast heads. Only major replacement was the pistons. Now i'm a little smaller cubic inch at 440 with a little room to grow in the cylinders. If you know how to build these things and use the right parts i wouldn't be afraid of boost at all.
I agree. Doesn't GM advertise the block is good to 2,000hp? If that's the case, I'd like GM to explain how they got to 2,000hp N/A!!!! WTF...
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Originally Posted by grinder11
I agree. Doesn't GM advertise the block is good to 2,000hp? If that's the case, I'd like GM to explain how they got to 2,000hp N/A!!!! WTF...
Never happen!
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
Never happen!
Exactly!!
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Old Oct 22, 2021 | 06:12 AM
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I wouldn't hesitate to run 10psi on E85 and with soft timing. I wouldn't run pump and meth. Maybe E85 and meth but not tuned to be meth dependent.
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
I wouldn't hesitate to run 10psi on E85 and with soft timing. I wouldn't run pump and meth. Maybe E85 and meth but not tuned to be meth dependent.
Yup the ethanol is the key for me. Runs SO much cooler with zero detonation with a good tune. Even low trans and coolant temps is a plus.
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