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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Interesting. Any more info on how this mythical LS2 did on the rollers?
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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That's awesome news!

I have a hypothetical question. If an LS2 were put on a dyno how much RWHP do you think it would have?


Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
We are working on a LS2 block "package", complete with bare block, timing cover, adaptor wiring harness, etc, everything to make it work for a LS1/LS6/4.8/5.3/6.0 customer. The price will hopefully be in the $1300 range for everything. It looks to be a good piece, we might have had a LS2 on the dyno last week As soon as I have all info I will post to let everyone know.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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Well, if we did, which I'm not saying we did, it would have made 360 RWHP, which is right in line with the best stock Z06 we have seen. The torque was about 30-40 RWTQ better then the current Z06 throughout the power band!! Of course, still not saying we dyno'd one.

I will say this, the electric door opening system is cool, no door handle inside or out, just a button. No key to start the car either, just a button.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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At this point you might as well just spill out the entire experience Brian
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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Thats great to hear Brian.

I may be a customer of yours for the package. Have you guys thought about putting together a 408 or 428 package with the blocks?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by John Yoder
Most of the changes made to the LS2 block are due to the revised oiling for displacement on demand. DOD will have the ability to "turn off" select valves by use of a special lifter. This required the block to be revised and the knock sensors moved to the outside of the block. Heads, intake, ect. will all bolt up.
What is the likelihood of the lifters being interchangeable? If the LS2 uses "special" lifters, that could be a big coin item for people swapping it into the F-bodies.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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The ls2 is not DOD, so it will use traditional lifters. The first DOD engines will be 5.3 to be but into trail blazers. Gen IV engines though use this revised oiling so DOD will work. The lifters are collapsible so when oil is turned off to that lifter the valve will not open. This is why the ls2 has external knock sensors.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Just to add to what John said, I think another reason for the relocated knock sensors is that the DOD engines use a different valley pan. The DOD valley pan has oil passages, etc. in it that are used to route high pressure oil down through the block to activate/deactivate lifters for those cylinders that are being brought online/offline.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by John Yoder
The ls2 is not DOD, so it will use traditional lifters. The first DOD engines will be 5.3 to be but into trail blazers. Gen IV engines though use this revised oiling so DOD will work. The lifters are collapsible so when oil is turned off to that lifter the valve will not open. This is why the ls2 has external knock sensors.
You seem pretty knowledgeable about the LS2's John.

In your opinion, is there anything that we haven't forseen that might cause problems with a retrofit into an F-body? And do you know if the LS2 knock sensors send the same level voltages as the LS1 knock modules, so the LS1 PCM could read them?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Well, if we did, which I'm not saying we did, it would have made 360 RWHP, which is right in line with the best stock Z06 we have seen. The torque was about 30-40 RWTQ better then the current Z06 throughout the power band!! Of course, still not saying we dyno'd one.

I will say this, the electric door opening system is cool, no door handle inside or out, just a button. No key to start the car either, just a button.
Not to say you dynoed a LS2 but I would think these #'s are for an auto. Shouldnt the manual put down a little more; since we are hypothetically speaking. Or am I wrong with this statement.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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but he did say the Tq is better than the current Z06, so im happy with that.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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If the block can only be bored .010 to 4.01 then a 4" crank gives you 404 CI not 408, if you use a 3.9" crank you get 394. Of course now we have to wait for cams too. This is worse than the wait for AFR's.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Interesting ttt
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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well brian when this package comes available i wanna be on "the list".
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
I will say this, the electric door opening system is cool, no door handle inside or out, just a button. No key to start the car either, just a button.
sooo, what would happen when your key fob runs out of batteries or drops in a puddle?
or you leave your door unlocked in the garage and and one of your ******* buddies/brothers/etc. just hops in and presses "the button"?
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Any new updates from sponsors?

I would like to purchase a fully assembled LS2 lunati stroker (4" stroke maybe 4.125" stroke) w/aftermarket heads & cam.

Seems like the delay will be aftermarket camshafts correct?

If any sponsors would like my business feel free to e-mail or PM me. Thanks!

- Keith
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Sales of HP Tuners must be filling Magnus's pockets with cash that's just burning holes in his jeans!!!!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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you know the iron block is only 65lbs heaver!

Originally Posted by Magnus
I'm still getting my car ready for 10's NA SI... however as soon as I do that I will want to do something big.

I'm debating doing an LS2 motor with a lunati stroker kit. Either the 4" stroke or the 4.125" stroke, not sure at the moment. I know you can get a very similar combo using the GM 6.0L Iron block however I did not do all the weight reduction just so I could drop an iron heap between my front skinnies.

I would buy a complete motor from GM (W/LS2 Heads) but my questions are regarding the cam and crank pos. sensors.

Are they located in the same place on the LS2 as they are on the LS1?

Can we get some verification in this thread on what parts are swappable between the LS1 and LS2?

Thanks.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Perhaps, but I'd like to be at 28xx raceweight and not 29xx.
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