LS2 Intake & TPIS 90 vs. TPIS Mod. Intake & Oval
11-24-2004, 04:48 PM
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Like I mentioned before in this post I have an LS6 modified intake and oval TB and I don't have a dyno number to post yet, but I can attest to the qualilty and customer service of TPIS. TPIS told me the same thing on a head and cam car that the LSX would flow to much for a stock cubed motor. We had problems with the voltage at the TPS sensor with the new TB but it was just the cruise cable not adjusted right that was pulling back on the TB sending it out of wack. We adjusted the cruise cable and it was good to go. We called TPIS and the customer service was great. They even called back the next day to see if it was working right.
I have pics of my setup if anyone wants them just send me a pm. They are to big to post.
I have pics of my setup if anyone wants them just send me a pm. They are to big to post.
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11-24-2004, 04:56 PM
#42
I believe the BS statement was because the info posted was incorrect.
The info said it was a .010 mill when it was really a .050 mill.
That made a huge difference in compression.
No one has a car that is a A4 with stock H/C making 400+++ HP like the results show.
Also one other thing we need to realize is the dyno being used.
I live in Ft. Myers which is where the testing was done.
THE DYNO IS A LAND AND SEE DYNO not a dynojet which is probally where the big difference is.
The info said it was a .010 mill when it was really a .050 mill.
That made a huge difference in compression.
No one has a car that is a A4 with stock H/C making 400+++ HP like the results show.
Also one other thing we need to realize is the dyno being used.
I live in Ft. Myers which is where the testing was done.
THE DYNO IS A LAND AND SEE DYNO not a dynojet which is probally where the big difference is.
11-24-2004, 05:38 PM
#43
Myron,something doesnt add up...Your buddies at Cartek have tested your OVAL/LS6 intake on thier S2 and S3 X setups.Julio,one of the best tuners in the country reported MORE RWHP/RWTQ running a LSX/90 over your Oval/LS6.
Now your contradicting Carteks findings?
So who do u believe,I say its impossible to tell as some types of combo's will do well w/a TPiS and some will do well with the LSX.
There IMO is no clear winner when it comes to these intakes but IMO I believe the LSX/90 will outgun your glued up modded LS6 and Oval TB.
Sorry but this is just my opinion.
Now your contradicting Carteks findings?
So who do u believe,I say its impossible to tell as some types of combo's will do well w/a TPiS and some will do well with the LSX.
There IMO is no clear winner when it comes to these intakes but IMO I believe the LSX/90 will outgun your glued up modded LS6 and Oval TB.
Sorry but this is just my opinion.
11-24-2004, 10:35 PM
#45
JS and JZ,
Myron already stated how the LS6 w/oval TB stacked up against the LSX on the previous page:
Myron already stated how the LS6 w/oval TB stacked up against the LSX on the previous page:
on 346's through modest cammed 383's the TPIS oval will out perform the fast intake in torque production and match the hp number. the torque number in the lower rpm range will be about 20 lb ft. larger than the LSX.
if you put a larger cam in the 383 all the way up to the large cid combinations the LSX is a better choice. we make the 90 mm throttles that many tuners are using.
the throttle response of the oval is hard to describe, my ZO-6 is an all bore 383 with our oval. people who have ridden and driven it swear that its a 434 cid.
myron c
if you put a larger cam in the 383 all the way up to the large cid combinations the LSX is a better choice. we make the 90 mm throttles that many tuners are using.
the throttle response of the oval is hard to describe, my ZO-6 is an all bore 383 with our oval. people who have ridden and driven it swear that its a 434 cid.
myron c
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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11-25-2004, 07:14 AM
#48
Originally Posted by cablebandit
tpis have any prices?
www.tpis.com
Go to page 126 and 127 of their catalog (or punch in key word "oval" on the search button).
Throttle Body for F-bodies: $550 with exchange
Modified LS6 intake: $425 with exchange
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
11-25-2004, 12:09 PM
#49
Pat,The LSX has been tested and picked up power over the oval tb and reworked LS6 intake.I never said it didnt work as I've seen an increase of power over a LS6/PTB.
LG/Cartek and a few others has tested it,they found the LSX/90 slightly better.If your on a budget then sure the TPiS is a very good option as it does work very well,but if your looking for every last bit of power the LSX/90 IMO is the best.
To each is own,this is just my opinion.
U really cant go wrong with either option.
LG/Cartek and a few others has tested it,they found the LSX/90 slightly better.If your on a budget then sure the TPiS is a very good option as it does work very well,but if your looking for every last bit of power the LSX/90 IMO is the best.
To each is own,this is just my opinion.
U really cant go wrong with either option.
