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Old 01-17-2005, 05:32 PM
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Okay, who wants to put one of these badboys in their f-body?

It's got me second guessing my plans for heads and cam.

Anyone know how much of a direct drop in these things are going to be?
And will your LS1 long tube headers bolt up or are you going to need custom headers?

And what about smog legality? Would it be "technically" illegal to replace your LS1 with an LS7?


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im guessing they will be in the 15k range for a motor.
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That's assuming that you can get your hands on one. Looks like gm is handbuilding and blueprinting every motor so it will probably not be a one stop shop. Maybe only way is to find a block pulled under warranty.

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Yeah everyone is hand built in Michigan right by me. I went to NAIAS and they had it there. awsome lil car. got some pics of it if anyone wants it
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yeah man, post some pics
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You asked for them here they are. I hope for the money of the car that the girl comes with it. idk what is better
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Originally Posted by taufern
That's assuming that you can get your hands on one. Looks like gm is handbuilding and blueprinting every motor so it will probably not be a one stop shop. Maybe only way is to find a block pulled under warranty.
http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/store/pr...Category_ID=2&
"LS7 Small Block Engine
Coming Fall of 2005"
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got some pics of it if anyone wants it
How about some pic's of the motor?
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They wouldnt open hood during display. Im going back within the week. ill get ya guys some.
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Originally Posted by dirtyshirt
You asked for them here they are. I hope for the money of the car that the girl comes with it. idk what is better
They both look real nice, the vette can talk back to me anytime but if the girl does can she be returned.
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haha they both look high maintenance imo.
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Well the LS2 is selling for 5295 complete so u figure a 7.0 wil Ti rods and blue-printed is gonna cost 2 to 3 times the LS2...I'd say a complete 427 engine is gonna cost somewhere between 12,995 and 14,995

We'll see.
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I read Ford sells the GT crate motor (aka handbuilt 550 horse motor with a blower from their "supercar") somewhere in the $30-$40000 ball park. Let's hope GM does not follow the same pricing model!
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Originally Posted by ElEsWon
I read Ford sells the GT crate motor (aka handbuilt 550 horse motor with a blower from their "supercar") somewhere in the $30-$40000 ball park. Let's hope GM does not follow the same pricing model!
I'm hoping/praying under $10,000.
GM would be wise to get this motor out to the aftermarket. It promotes their tech and grunt. They need the promo in the Gen Xers and GenYers - to keep them away from the Ricers . At least until the F Bod returns!
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Maybe this could be a good comparison?

ZZ572/620:
These are available now!
P/N 12499190, Short-Block - $7,500.00
P/N 12498792, Base Engine - $11,500.00
P/N 12498793, Premium Engine - $12,995.00

Availability Update ZZ572/720R:
These are available now!
P/N 12498825, Short-Block - $7,600.00
P/N 12498826, Base Engine - $12,300.00
P/N 12498827, Premium Engine - $13,995.00

I want 1 ...or 2.
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Availability Update ZZ572/720R:
These are available now!
P/N 12498825, Short-Block - $7,600.00
P/N 12498826, Base Engine - $12,300.00
P/N 12498827, Premium Engine - $13,995.00
Well, guess I can stop praying.
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I just wonder if the crate engine version will come with the Ti rods. Those things are like $4K-$5K+ by themselves in the aftermarket world. It would be nice if GM made this in a crate version if they just used some nice steel rods. That would save a ton of money right there.

Heck, all I want is the block and heads. They can keep all the rest of the parts.
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someone said they are hand built...along with the fact they are Ti rods...i highly doubt it will be 15g its not a sbc thats been being made for 50+ years....i honestly predict 25g if you can EVEN get one...i doubt they will sell em to just anyone for a few while...like with the ls6 heads and such back in the day, when they had to be sent back to gm if they were ripped off a car in the shop.
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I just wonder if the crate engine version will come with the Ti rods. Those things are like $4K-$5K+ by themselves in the aftermarket world.
I'll imagine that they'll be PM rods for half that cost.
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Originally Posted by Bink
I'm hoping/praying under $10,000.
GM would be wise to get this motor out to the aftermarket. It promotes their tech and grunt. They need the promo in the Gen Xers and GenYers - to keep them away from the Ricers . At least until the F Bod returns!
I can't stop laughing at you dreaming. It would be nice, but the LT5 (ZR1 motor) went for $15k and when I checked about 2 years ago, SDPC still had some. They had several years of motors left at the end of production, and those were mass assembled. Figure how much a a427 Katech motor goes for and subtratc $5k for mass quantity discount.


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