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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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anyone have any info (pics would be even better) of how the LS7 will be doing its dry sump oiling system? It should be able to bolt onto the LS1/LS6 which would open up high RPM.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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i think i heard that the system uses an internal pump, so there will be nothin hanging off the block. there are a few convertions for car over here (uk) that use like a radial 5 stage pump where the orignal was (i think). should imagain it will be something moduler.

good question though, be nice to see it!

thanks chris.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Chris, do you have any links to the radial 5 stage pump system?
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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It is basically just two pumps on the snout of the crank. One for the sump, one for pressure. There is a pretty good picture of it in this section.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Classic
It is basically just two pumps on the snout of the crank. One for the sump, one for pressure. There is a pretty good picture of it in this section.

any idea how the lines are setup?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
anyone have any info (pics would be even better) of how the LS7 will be doing its dry sump oiling system? It should be able to bolt onto the LS1/LS6 which would open up high RPM.
Here you go........David Farmer posted this, great pic! -> http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=988196
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by leaftye
Chris, do you have any links to the radial 5 stage pump system?
sorry mate, i dont! i was just looking at what i have seen done over here on some of the older engines. i think these 5 stage pumps just used the standard drive and a small external pump. they even left the sump allown! not as good as the externally mounted pumps (you can run as many stages as you like) but much cheaper.

the solution shown looks very good and should be interchangerable!

thanks Chris.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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check out ARE (not the one you're thinking of) for a nice dry sump for an LS1. They have a few versions (none as nice as the LS7 stuff), and you don't have to use the big 5-stage stuff.
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You loose the AC with the ARE drysump
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I've heard that the LS7 has a longer crank snout to accomadate the pump, and of course a different front cover. If the longer snout is necessary and for real. We're bumed. Any one know for sure?
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Originally Posted by GIGAPUNK
I've heard that the LS7 has a longer crank snout to accomadate the pump, and of course a different front cover. If the longer snout is necessary and for real. We're bumed. Any one know for sure?

Yes, it is a longer snout on the crank and a different front cover. It would be necessary for a retrofit. We have an external dry sump kit if you're interested.
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The LS7 dry sump system is integral to the LS7 engine (block).. you can not fit it to an LS1/2/6 engine.. diff pump and cover as well.

You can see it here when I did the LS7 build..
http://popularhotrodding.com/tech/0507phr_gm/

You can see a pic of the huge double impeller pump on the first page.
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So it's official,

We're bummed.

I'm rebuilding my '01 vette block this summer, and I wanted to stay away from an external pump, dry sump system.

Is there any reason that anyone would advise against using the LH6 pump in my LS1 rebuild? Is there any reason not to port the exit of it like I would a normal LS6 pump?

Thank you in advance to any of you "in the know."
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Originally Posted by GIGAPUNK
So it's official,

We're bummed.

I'm rebuilding my '01 vette block this summer, and I wanted to stay away from an external pump, dry sump system.

Is there any reason that anyone would advise against using the LH6 pump in my LS1 rebuild? Is there any reason not to port the exit of it like I would a normal LS6 pump?

Thank you in advance to any of you "in the know."
It's not impossible. You would need:

LS7 pan
LS7 crankshaft (24x reluctor, rebalanced)
clearance the block for 4.000" stroke
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LS7 crank gear
LS7 front cover
ATI damper custom modified by Katech to run your LS1 front drive
UMI AN oil pan adapter
custom AN lines
LS7 dry sump tank, possibly modified to fit
Katech dry sump valve covers

At this point you're increasing displacement so you need to decide if you want to use our 4.125" LS2 block and have a 427, or just buy an LS7 crate engine anyways so you have the cylinder heads. If you're interested in retrofitting a LS7 into a C5 we can help you there.
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