LS7's New Threat
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LS7's New Threat I just got my motortrend and inside was a 2007 Shelby Cobra. They are saying that it will produce 550bhp and run low 12's, high 11's. I was wondering if anybody had any other information on this car, such as price/road handling/and anything else performance related? Oh they also said it is supposed to be the car that challenges the new C6 ZO6.
Originally Posted by PewterWSSicc
I just got my motortrend and inside was a 2007 Shelby Cobra. They are saying that it will produce 550bhp and run low 12's, high 11's. I was wondering if anybody had any other information on this car, such as price/road handling/and anything else performance related? Oh they also said it is supposed to be the car that challenges the new C6 ZO6.
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Yeah, i figured it would be an *** load of money also. Whats up with Ford these days. They keep coming out with faster and faster cars every year. With that live axle it should be able to hook up good too. Well thats gonna be kinda disconcerting, a stock mustang beating a whole hell of a lot of cars. I also saw the new saleen mustang, what a joke that thing was.
yeah nice 45k car that only puts out 325 hp. O but wait it has 3valves per cylinder. hahaha. but once again the only way they make power is to supercharge it. the S282 will be coming out and is supposed to make 400 or somthing like that. no doubt that will be supercharged. but one thing they do right is suspension. but it isnt worth 45k IMO
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Yeah the suspension is good. I also like the ford rear-ends and that there clutches arent hydraulic. But back to this 07 Shelby Mustang Cobra. If its the same price range then it wont be that much of a challenge i think. Some people will buy it. But it definately wont be a better road course car, look as nice, it might just be close in a straight line. So who would wanna buy something like that. What i really wonder is how high is the boost on the supercharger gonna be. Probably the same as the Ford GT, whatever that one is.
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Man, they should not make the Shelby with 550 horsepower. What a way to trample on the Ford GTs status. I don't just say that because I don't want the Ford to be faster or more powerful either, because I do like them...but that's really a lot more harm then good. If they threw a LS7 in a GTO, it wouldn't bring the GTO's status up as much as it would bring the Z06's down, although it would make the GTO very sweet. I think that they are going to dilute their higher end products at this rate.
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Yeah, i agree totally. But if somehow they manage to sell that thing under 50k. It will probably sell so fast. But i think it will be priced around 70k. Because the GR-1 is supposed to be 100k and then the GT is like 140k+. I think Ford is putting themselves out of a good market though. The normal mustang GT doesnt have anywhere near enough performance or moddability to be considered a good performance car. Unlike the 03/04 Cobra which was easily modded to over 450rwhp. So we will have to see if they also come out with a SVT Cobra again to cover this market back up again.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sho...d.php?t=1031387
if GM says 11.5 seconds in the 1/4 then the better drivers will be sinking into the very low 11s and possibly 10s.
0-60 in 3.6 seconds
1/4 in 11.5 seconds
top speed: 205mph
if GM says 11.5 seconds in the 1/4 then the better drivers will be sinking into the very low 11s and possibly 10s.
0-60 in 3.6 seconds
1/4 in 11.5 seconds
top speed: 205mph
I think it should be like the sixties myself. Don't worry about if the lowly Chevelle had pretty much the same HP as the Vette. Don't worry that you could get a 426 Hemi in a four door Cornet or their top of the line GTX.
I think that most people are sensible enough to know that a 550HP motor in a Mustang does not equal a 500 HP GT. If they don't know the difference,,, then they really don't need one.
If the motor fits,,,, drop it in!
I think that most people are sensible enough to know that a 550HP motor in a Mustang does not equal a 500 HP GT. If they don't know the difference,,, then they really don't need one.
If the motor fits,,,, drop it in!
A while back I heard the Shelby was to pack 465 horsepower in some magazine...I think that's a really good number. Nothing too close to its supercar brothers, and high enough from the rest of its competition in its price range. That would still be a great deal at 50k I think. That puts it in the best market IMHO.
EDIT: But people today are a lot stupider when it comes to street smarts about vehicles, in their minds the higher HP car is the obvious victor and is superior. Also, today people brag more about power then how fast a vehicle actually is. Everybody loves to bench race you know.
EDIT: But people today are a lot stupider when it comes to street smarts about vehicles, in their minds the higher HP car is the obvious victor and is superior. Also, today people brag more about power then how fast a vehicle actually is. Everybody loves to bench race you know.
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Yeah, there is a lot of bench racing everywhere. Well whatever they do, i think Ford is actually on the right track. They are getting more and more bold with what there doing to there vehicles. It kinda wish Chevy would get that bold. Maybe finally make a really good 30k car again. The GTO is an alright car, and has good performance. And its in the price range. But it is a heavy car, that doesnt look like a muscle or sports car. I would really like to see GM come out with a new 30k car, that has the LS2 in it, or maybe a 35k car that has an LS6 and forged internals or something. They need something that can take the power better, that is in a lower price range and lighter. Just like our F-bodies are. 3400lbs, a 9" rear-end, better tranny, and maybe forged internals would make a bad *** car to buy. Just my opinion though...
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yeah nice 45k car that only puts out 325 hp. O but wait it has 3valves per cylinder. hahaha. but once again the only way they make power is to supercharge it. the S282 will be coming out and is supposed to make 400 or somthing like that. no doubt that will be supercharged. but one thing they do right is suspension. but it isnt worth 45k IMO
Man, they should not make the Shelby with 550 horsepower. What a way to trample on the Ford GTs status. I don't just say that because I don't want the Ford to be faster or more powerful either, because I do like them...but that's really a lot more harm then good.
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http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2004/040813ford-gr1/
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...minum-Body.htm
It kind of reminds me of a stingray body line. Im not a big fan of it. Although, if the ratings are correct, I would sport this monster
Not sure this is the exact model that was brought up either though. If it is, then it IS NA, just has 2 more cylinders.
For those that do not want to read the specs:
Engine 6.4 liter DOHC V10
Weight 3900 lbs
Aspiration natural
Torque 501 lb-ft @ 5550 rpm
HP 605 hp @ 6750 rpm
HP/Weight 6.4 lbs per hp
HP/Liter 94.5 hp per liter
0-60 mph under 4 seconds
Top Speed 200 mph +
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...minum-Body.htm
It kind of reminds me of a stingray body line. Im not a big fan of it. Although, if the ratings are correct, I would sport this monster
Not sure this is the exact model that was brought up either though. If it is, then it IS NA, just has 2 more cylinders.For those that do not want to read the specs:
Engine 6.4 liter DOHC V10
Weight 3900 lbs
Aspiration natural
Torque 501 lb-ft @ 5550 rpm
HP 605 hp @ 6750 rpm
HP/Weight 6.4 lbs per hp
HP/Liter 94.5 hp per liter
0-60 mph under 4 seconds
Top Speed 200 mph +
Im not too worried about Ford coming out with a car that will out perform the C6 ZO6, If the 07 Cobra does hopefully by then GM would have given the green light on the Blue Devil, which im sure will out perform the Cobra. Not that i can afford any of those right now, and we are just talking about stock for stock, cars can always be made faster, and if the General doesnt step up with a car that can compete with the new cobra with in the same price range, i maybe a traitor. I love GM cars but not enough to pay 20-30k EXTRA for the same performance, just my .02
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And it's not a mustang, thank god. With the ford guys I hang around, that's the last thing I need is for ford to come out with a 550 hp mustang. Looks like just another shelby concept/very limited production car to me.
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Originally Posted by f-bodman
And it's not a mustang, thank god. With the ford guys I hang around, that's the last thing I need is for ford to come out with a 550 hp mustang. Looks like just another shelby concept/very limited production car to me.
