Wilson Sheet Metal Intake
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Wilson Sheet Metal Intake Has anyone tried this intake yet?
I talked with Keith Wilson yesterday and they are working a LS7 sheet metal intake, it will be the same as their new sheet metal intake for the cathedral head.
It should be done a month.
Bob
I talked with Keith Wilson yesterday and they are working a LS7 sheet metal intake, it will be the same as their new sheet metal intake for the cathedral head.
It should be done a month.
Bob
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These have a long runner about 2" shorter then stock.
Most other Sheet Metal intake are very short like 3 to 6 inchs.
I think for the best overall results somewhere around 7 to 9 inchs will be best.
What do you think?
Bob
Most other Sheet Metal intake are very short like 3 to 6 inchs.
I think for the best overall results somewhere around 7 to 9 inchs will be best.
What do you think?
Bob
Flow charts are about 30% of the story on a sheet metal intake.... if Wilson doesn't make good ones I don't know who does? I guess Greg Anderson, Jason Line and Rob Mansfield don't have any luck with their stuff or sheet metal intakes in general.
Bret
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not trying to sound like an @sshole and not saying Wilson does not make good products. BUT what do you mean flow charts are only 30%.
i like to deal with hard numbers , at least that gives me some data to work with and what to expect with cam and other choices.
Last i spoke with Speed Inc (several months ago) the sheet metal intakes that they had tested flowed bout the same as an ls6 manifold at 4 or 5 times the cost. at that time i was going to have them flow a Beck sheet metal intake, which after our conversation ( along with speaking with other shops) i opted not to and go witht the Vic Jr.
Not saying some people arent having good results with the sheet metal intakes, but over all ,LSX style sheet metal intakes are or maybe after this new Wilson where lacking.
It would be very nice to see a company back up there product with hard data is all i am saying.
I mean Hell i dropped over 2k in a Vic Jr, yeah a Vic Jr.. i would not blink to drop twice that and more for a sheet metal intake that had number to back it up.
i like to deal with hard numbers , at least that gives me some data to work with and what to expect with cam and other choices.
Last i spoke with Speed Inc (several months ago) the sheet metal intakes that they had tested flowed bout the same as an ls6 manifold at 4 or 5 times the cost. at that time i was going to have them flow a Beck sheet metal intake, which after our conversation ( along with speaking with other shops) i opted not to and go witht the Vic Jr.
Not saying some people arent having good results with the sheet metal intakes, but over all ,LSX style sheet metal intakes are or maybe after this new Wilson where lacking.
It would be very nice to see a company back up there product with hard data is all i am saying.
I mean Hell i dropped over 2k in a Vic Jr, yeah a Vic Jr.. i would not blink to drop twice that and more for a sheet metal intake that had number to back it up.
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I'm having Beck build me a custom cross-ram style intake for my LS7 build. I wanted slightly longer runners for better torque response, since this car will be a cruiser (convertible '69 Camaro). School of Automotive Machinists use his intakes on all of their high HP builds, and so do a few 10.5 Outlaw cars running 6s at over 200 mph.
Tony
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Originally Posted by theblur98ss
how did you get over 2k wrapped up in a vic jr?
Pics can be seen in the link in my sig for the engine build
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i need real world flow numbers.if the wilson flows well,enough to keep up with a 320 cfm head or better,i will but one.its not like they cant do it.just dont keep quiet and let a few poor souls find out the hard way that its no better than any fast intake out there.
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SStrokerAce is right - the reason you go with sheet metal intakes is not flow per se. Yeah, it has to flow well. But intakes are not primarily flow devices, they're tuning devices. It's quite possible - easy, even - to build an intake that flows 30 CFM better and loses 50 HP over most of the range to a stock intake, because fails to tune the finite amplitude waves for the application.
The reason racers use sheet metal intakes when the objective is absolute max HP per CID is that sheet metal intakes can be built to precise specifications of runner length and taper to match the port, valve, cam, and desired RPM range of the application.
The reason racers use sheet metal intakes when the objective is absolute max HP per CID is that sheet metal intakes can be built to precise specifications of runner length and taper to match the port, valve, cam, and desired RPM range of the application.
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Originally Posted by 71CamaroLS1
SStrokerAce is right - the reason you go with sheet metal intakes is not flow per se. Yeah, it has to flow well. But intakes are not primarily flow devices, they're tuning devices. It's quite possible - easy, even - to build an intake that flows 30 CFM better and loses 50 HP over most of the range to a stock intake, because fails to tune the finite amplitude waves for the application.
The reason racers use sheet metal intakes when the objective is absolute max HP per CID is that sheet metal intakes can be built to precise specifications of runner length and taper to match the port, valve, cam, and desired RPM range of the application.
The reason racers use sheet metal intakes when the objective is absolute max HP per CID is that sheet metal intakes can be built to precise specifications of runner length and taper to match the port, valve, cam, and desired RPM range of the application.
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i see what you mean about tuning,but i happen to be looking for max hp at a certain rpm.the fast doesent flow enough for me.i was just wishing for more flow without having to fab up a sheet metal intake.i would rather buy the wilson,i just need some flow figures from them.
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
I'm having Beck build me a custom cross-ram style intake for my LS7 build. I wanted slightly longer runners for better torque response, since this car will be a cruiser (convertible '69 Camaro). School of Automotive Machinists use his intakes on all of their high HP builds, and so do a few 10.5 Outlaw cars running 6s at over 200 mph.
Tony
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When is your Beck LS7 Cross Ram Sheet Metal intake going to be done?
I have talked to John Beck about building me the same intake.
Post up the pic results when it is done.
Bob
Originally Posted by SlickVert
Tony,
When is your Beck LS7 Cross Ram Sheet Metal intake going to be done?
I have talked to John Beck about building me the same intake.
Post up the pic results when it is done.
Bob
When is your Beck LS7 Cross Ram Sheet Metal intake going to be done?
I have talked to John Beck about building me the same intake.
Post up the pic results when it is done.
Bob
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Not sure when it will be done, just got him started on it last Friday evening. I'm not in a super hurry though, still waiting on a rotating assy and the heads to show up. All I have is an LS7 block sitting in a crate at the moment.
Can you take a look at your LS7 block to see if it has a boss for an Oil Dip Stick?
If so, then it can be drilled for a Oil Dip Stick.
I am thinking of using this block with LS1 wet sump.
Bob
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Originally Posted by SlickVert
Tony,
Can you take a look at your LS7 block to see if it has a boss for an Oil Dip Stick?
If so, then it can be drilled for a Oil Dip Stick.
I am thinking of using this block with LS1 wet sump.
Bob
Can you take a look at your LS7 block to see if it has a boss for an Oil Dip Stick?
If so, then it can be drilled for a Oil Dip Stick.
I am thinking of using this block with LS1 wet sump.
Bob