dynoed 408 with l92 ported heads and disappointed
#21
Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
Also how do you know you're at 11:1 compression? How much did you take out of your piston and how big of a chamber do your heads have?
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#22
Injectors you want to run at 80% duty cycle. That was one of the things that I noticed. The injectors MAY be too small. An unlocked converter will also put out lower numbers, especially if its a "loose" converter. I believe a VIG3400 is more like a 4000 since they're advertised lower than they are last time I read.
#23
Originally Posted by Dragaholic
Injectors you want to run at 80% duty cycle. That was one of the things that I noticed. The injectors MAY be too small. An unlocked converter will also put out lower numbers, especially if its a "loose" converter. I believe a VIG3400 is more like a 4000 since they're advertised lower than they are last time I read.
#24
If you're looking for better track results, then a looser converter will net you better times. Now if you plan on spraying it, then a tighter converter will better suit nitrous. You have to decide what you want, a naturally aspirated setup or nitrous.
#25
Originally Posted by Dragaholic
If you're looking for better track results, then a looser converter will net you better times. Now if you plan on spraying it, then a tighter converter will better suit nitrous. You have to decide what you want, a naturally aspirated setup or nitrous.
#27
Originally Posted by king jack
Has a fully ported stock MAF, clean k&n filter, heads were ported by a friend who I know does really nice work. He really did not do much at all on intake side except around the guide and throat area but on exhaust opened them up to gasket size. I didnt take time to get them flowed cause the progect took more time than I wanted already. Have had three sets of heads ported by same guy in past and always had very good performance from his work. Guys at RPM forgot to give me my dyno sheet but I remember it made 405 ft. lb. of torque at around 5200 rpm I think. I remember him telling me it was using 90 % of the injectors if that means anything helpful. And also remember him saying torque convertor was NOT locked.
Listening to the symptoms, the torque peaks really high for only 405 lb/ft. If it's unlocked you should have a huge torque spike at the beginning of the run of 500+ rwtq. That converter will still be fine for spray though even if it is flashing around 4k. You might be blowing through the converter though.
Also, you shouldn't be close to making out those injectors with only 415 rwhp. Do you still have a stock fuel pump? What fuel pressure are you running? Stock fuel filter still?
Something just doesn't add up here and I hope you can get to the bottom of it with the help of this board.
#28
Who takes their car to get dynoed on a new combination like this and leaves without getting it printed to look at? Especially if you think something isn't right. And doesn't know the a/f ratio. Then seems to not know much about the motor and setup. Something doesn't add up.
#29
Originally Posted by king jack
Had heads cut to 64cc , used 40 th. comectic gasket , did cut right much out of valve relief of -12cc mahle pistons but they come 5 thousands out of hole. Should still be at least 10.5 comp. at minamal I would think
Something is not right though. Good luck. Get that thing tuned again.
#33
I found that exhaust makes a HUGE difference with these big displacement motors. They simply need more to breath because the move so much air. You can free up as much as 30 hp or more just by having the correct exhaust setup.
Then I would take a hard look at your tune. AF ratio and timing advance. If your running too rich for some reason that can absolutely kill power. Find out if the tuner suppressed any codes and find out what the codes were. You might even be getting some KR.
I would try those two things before buying a bunch of new parts.
So, if you take your baseline, 415, add 30hp for better exhaust, add another 30 for a proper tune, that puts you at about 475 hp. Just about right for that motor with those heads going through an automatic.
Then I would take a hard look at your tune. AF ratio and timing advance. If your running too rich for some reason that can absolutely kill power. Find out if the tuner suppressed any codes and find out what the codes were. You might even be getting some KR.
I would try those two things before buying a bunch of new parts.
So, if you take your baseline, 415, add 30hp for better exhaust, add another 30 for a proper tune, that puts you at about 475 hp. Just about right for that motor with those heads going through an automatic.
#34
Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
First off, get the stock maf out of the intake track, replace it with a piece of tubing and tune SD. Ditch the Mac mids and get full 1-7/8" headers. A ton of your power will come back with these two mods.
Listening to the symptoms, the torque peaks really high for only 405 lb/ft. If it's unlocked you should have a huge torque spike at the beginning of the run of 500+ rwtq. That converter will still be fine for spray though even if it is flashing around 4k. You might be blowing through the converter though.
Also, you shouldn't be close to making out those injectors with only 415 rwhp. Do you still have a stock fuel pump? What fuel pressure are you running? Stock fuel filter still?
Something just doesn't add up here and I hope you can get to the bottom of it with the help of this board.
Listening to the symptoms, the torque peaks really high for only 405 lb/ft. If it's unlocked you should have a huge torque spike at the beginning of the run of 500+ rwtq. That converter will still be fine for spray though even if it is flashing around 4k. You might be blowing through the converter though.
Also, you shouldn't be close to making out those injectors with only 415 rwhp. Do you still have a stock fuel pump? What fuel pressure are you running? Stock fuel filter still?
Something just doesn't add up here and I hope you can get to the bottom of it with the help of this board.
#39
Originally Posted by Jantzer98SS
Who takes their car to get dynoed on a new combination like this and leaves without getting it printed to look at? Especially if you think something isn't right. And doesn't know the a/f ratio. Then seems to not know much about the motor and setup. Something doesn't add up.
#40
Originally Posted by king jack
Probably a person who just got into this ls1 stuff for the first time, thats why I paid people to do this stuff for me. What good is knowing the a/f ratio if I dont know what it means, you think? Thats why im asking for help not sarcasum please.