433 cid on the stock sleeve, L92 engine
01-08-2007, 10:20 AM
#44
Originally Posted by MrEracer
Yes, the sleeves looked the same only not as bad... The main thing is they were not thin on the thrust side of the cylinder wall.
Shirl Dickey
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Did you also have the issue with factory bores not being true???
01-08-2007, 11:20 AM
#46
Originally Posted by MrEracer
The factory bores were straight, no problem. If you don't want to go all the way to 4.100" on the L92 bore, why not go 4.080" with a 4.100" stroke and you get a very nice 427 cid...
Shirl Dickey
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01-08-2007, 01:45 PM
#47
Well, I have two things to say about your comment...
1st, in all my years of engine building I have NEVER seen an engine failure due to side wall wear or oiling issues with long strokes... This is just more conventional wisdom BS (wrong 90% of the time).
2nd, if you listen to all the 'experts with no experience' on these forums you will never see the winners circle.
There are a few knowledgable people here and you should learn who they are. The rest will lead you astray.
Shirl Dickey
1st, in all my years of engine building I have NEVER seen an engine failure due to side wall wear or oiling issues with long strokes... This is just more conventional wisdom BS (wrong 90% of the time).
2nd, if you listen to all the 'experts with no experience' on these forums you will never see the winners circle.
There are a few knowledgable people here and you should learn who they are. The rest will lead you astray.
Shirl Dickey
01-09-2007, 01:29 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Bink
SideStep - Google "Shirl Dickey".
He's not one of the ones that will lead you astray.
He's not one of the ones that will lead you astray.
I did and have...
Like I said above "No experience in it, just what I have read...." and that is all I really have to go on. Also, those of us buying pre-built short-blocks are really at the mercy of the builders/vendors who sale the product. If they (the builder) are unwilling to produce a certain product (i.e. 4.1 stroke) we have to live with that...
06-12-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Peepers
Any new news about this set-up?
We need to know bro so we can plan our next motors. 
06-15-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
YEAH SHIRL, give us an update. Is this motor alive and well or has she fragged yet? We need to know bro so we can plan our next motors.
We need to know bro so we can plan our next motors. or has gone KABOOM! 
If this motor proves to be durable this is a great high hp 427 to 433 cid LS series motor that can be put together on a tight budget (if not then its just a waste of time and $). The jury is still out and patiently awaiting the verdict! 
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06-16-2007, 07:33 PM
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Shirl walked me threw my LS2 418 build (4.100"crank ,4.030" bore , 6.125 rods), here on LS1 Tech ,when there were very few of them out there at the time, a lot of people said i couldn't bore a LS2 .030"over, But Shirl said it would be fine .The motor has been running for over six months now with a lot of hard running and with nitrous 250 shot. The motor runs perfect. So if Shirl says i can bore a L92 to a 4.100" and build a 433cid. i will. So i guess I will go to the dealer and order a new L92 block .It shouldn't cost me that much to build,around 1800.00, ill just pull my 418cid this fall and order me a new set of pistons from Ross and put my internals in the L92 block. And thanks again Shirl for all the help on my 418 build, could not of done it with out you.
06-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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Comp cam's Extreme Marine lobes, 254/268, .646 lift, 113 +2
I'm planning a 427 road race motor, this sounds like a big cam that would work for it. Why did you use 113 lobe centers, I thought that big motors like close centers. Thanks for any input..
06-17-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy WS6
Hay Shirl, what would be a good hyd.cam for street or strip racing for the 433cid.
06-18-2007, 11:59 AM
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From memory Shirl set some lap records in his class (road racing) with the new setup in AZ when I talked to him many months ago.
The cam he runs is a hydraulic setup and is an off the shelf grind from the Comp Cams "marine" section listing (from what he told me). Said the lobes were less aggressive and less strain on the valvetrain than aggressive XER lobes.
Wish he would finally dyno the setup and post up some RWHP/RWTQ numbers.
The cam he runs is a hydraulic setup and is an off the shelf grind from the Comp Cams "marine" section listing (from what he told me). Said the lobes were less aggressive and less strain on the valvetrain than aggressive XER lobes.
Wish he would finally dyno the setup and post up some RWHP/RWTQ numbers.
06-18-2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gnx7
From memory Shirl set some lap records in his class (road racing) with the new setup in AZ when I talked to him many months ago.
The cam he runs is a hydraulic setup and is an off the shelf grind from the Comp Cams "marine" section listing (from what he told me). Said the lobes were less aggressive and less strain on the valvetrain than aggressive XER lobes.
Wish he would finally dyno the setup and post up some RWHP/RWTQ numbers.
The cam he runs is a hydraulic setup and is an off the shelf grind from the Comp Cams "marine" section listing (from what he told me). Said the lobes were less aggressive and less strain on the valvetrain than aggressive XER lobes.
Wish he would finally dyno the setup and post up some RWHP/RWTQ numbers.
Yes I agree and more importantly let us know is the motor still holding up strong wihtout any issues including of course oil consumption!
