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Old 03-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TroubledWine3
I run M1 0W-40 as reccomended by Patman. He said the M1 0W-40 is a lot more like a 5W-30 and that it's one of the best widely available oils for LS1s after multiple used oil tests.
I see, well if M1 0W-40 is more like a normal oils 5W-30 then i understand it now. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
I see, well if M1 0W-40 is more like a normal oils 5W-30 then i understand it now. Thanks.

Also, it can be really hard to find German Castrol in some areas. M1 0w-40 is a good substitute for GC 5w-30.
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So whats the best oil to use for hot conditions? I live in Tx and it gets pretty dam hot! When i bought my car it did not smoke atall under any conditions.It had 70000K now has 100000K I benn using Mobil1 5w30 or RP changed @ 2500M like clock work.Lately though under WOT it starts to smoke,sometimes under normal driving conditions.Any help anyone?
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Mobil 1 or any synthetic oil is good past 5000 miles..I change mine at 5000 but I have had it analized and it still has plenty of life left in it at 5000..your wasting money by changing it at 2500..I use 0-40 M1 year round and I've got 130,000 hard miles on my car...no smoking no oil consumption..
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Originally Posted by brad8266
WHAT?? 2 quarts or even 1 is a lot of oil to burn and you have other engine issues such as worn piston rings or worn out valve seals. My LS1 burns no oil at all in 3k miles and if it did it would be getting a complete rebuild.

Please dont ever say that burning 2 qts of oil is normal because it isnt, i dont care what the internet experts here tell you, its common sense. To burn oil it only has a few places to go, an oil leak to the ground, through the PCV, past the rings and into your chambers to be burned, or through your worn valve seals into the chamber to be burned. And if the PCV is pushing lots of oil through it then most likely the piston rings are worn out an allowing excessive blowby which increases crankcase pressure which is why more oil would get sucked through the PCV. Worn rings and oil through the PCV are like a double edged sword.
I think that almost every engine ever built burns some oil!
It just depends on how much and also, on how you drive it.
I believe that 1 qrt between changes is NOT excessive for our motors. We ALL know that the MAJORITY of the factory LS1's burn some oil. Granted some of those were excessive (2+ qts every 3k miles), but with the RPM's that the LS1's like and with the way that some of us drive, I believe in my OPINION (which if I state it as fact these days I will get flamed) that some oil consumption is OK.

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Originally Posted by gun5l1ng3r
I think that almost every engine ever built burns some oil!
It just depends on how much and also, on how you drive it.
I believe that 1 qrt between changes is NOT excessive for our motors. We ALL know that the MAJORITY of the factory LS1's burn some oil. Granted some of those were excessive (2+ qts every 3k miles), but with the RPM's that the LS1's like and with the way that some of us drive, I believe in my OPINION (which if I state it as fact these days I will get flamed) that some oil consumption is OK.

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Well said .. as I stated before GM says that a quart every 1000 miles is with in there limints of acceptable oil consumption..I use 3/4 of quart to 1 quart every 5000 miles and to me that very acceptable..my car never used oil at all till I did the cam swap and valve train upgrades and bumped the rev limiter to 7000 rpm...

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Why don't people run 10W30 M1? I have immediate oil pressure when cold and don't need any higher than recommended specs when warm, when my new motor comes back I may switch to 5W30 but never 0W30, there's no need for it.

These light oils are made for super tight clearances normally found in foreign small displacement motors. Clearances stock ls1's just don't have...
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Originally Posted by Lythropus
Why don't people run 10W30 M1? I have immediate oil pressure when cold and don't need any higher than recommended specs when warm, when my new motor comes back I may switch to 5W30 but never 0W30, there's no need for it.

These light oils are made for super tight clearances normally found in foreign small displacement motors. Clearances stock ls1's just don't have...
Have you not read everything posted about the viscosity of the M1 30 weight oils? They come back with poor numbers after testing.

A 0w is not going to make that much difference. If you want to run a good oil like GC or a M1 40 weight, you have to get it in a 0w. My cold oil pressure with the GC and M1 0w40 are the same. If you look at the numbers, the viscosity doesnt change until you get in to extreme cold temperatures.
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Mobil 1 5w-30 is not a thin 30 weight oil! It is actually thicker than most 30 weight oils.
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great find

From all the oil tests/posts I have seen, the cSt@100ºC is around 10.0. I think the main issue is it degrading to a thinner oil faster.
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If you guys want to get the low down on the oil PM Patman he is the resident guru on oil..this subject was beaten to death many time in the past..it is kind of old news..
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Originally Posted by LS17000RPM
Mobil 1 5w-30 is not a thin 30 weight oil! It is actually thicker than most 30 weight oils.
thank you!
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I am under the impression that a thicker oil than M1 5w30 is good for lsx engines. I use M1 0w40 based on recommendation from Patman.
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Hellcats require 0-40...just saying. If a state of the art engine calls for it im sure it lubes juat fine.
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Nine year old thread is nine years old....

Also, citing a completely different engine's oil specification is hardly relevant.
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mobil 1 0w40 is what i use and works great
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0w40 M1 is the better quality of the basic over the shelf oils. It has one of the the most robust base and additives from what I remember. I'd choose it any day over 5w30 M1 which was watered down years ago. Rotella t6 5w40 is my second choice for over the counter stuff in many applications.
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Originally Posted by S_Sprouse
Hellcats require 0-40...just saying. If a state of the art engine calls for it im sure it lubes juat fine.
And 03-04 Cobras run 5w20. Different motors have different specs/clearances/tolerances

Originally Posted by MuhThugga
Nine year old thread is nine years old....

Also, citing a completely different engine's oil specification is hardly relevant.
I agree lol



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