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Old 05-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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all pro hurricane 6 bolt/cylinder heads
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Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
all pro hurricane 6 bolt/cylinder heads
I was just looking at these and don't really know much about them.. I just tried to call them, but I'm guessing they are already closed for the day.

How much are they and is anyone on here running them yet?
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if max effort is the name of the game, ET canted valve and a sheet metal intake, make 900 rw on motor then spray it with 2 stages of 300 each... and get ready to go 7.xx
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Will be using a Canfield head when I build mine. Don't know what part number, it's a 6 hole head. Will try to find model. My expert swears by them. Good luck.

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waiting for the GMMP LSx 6 bolt head to be released,
i beleive i read somwhere that will have the ls7 intake port and bolt pattern,
and use the ls7 intake manifold. they are supposed to flow better than the ls7
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
if max effort is the name of the game, ET canted valve and a sheet metal intake, make 900 rw on motor then spray it with 2 stages of 300 each... and get ready to go 7.xx
Now your talking!!!But im kinda liking the world block.I need to get my car on a diet and i know the lsx is more heavy than the 6.0 iron,how much i don't know but like the aluminum world block.
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Damn I hate this sport..
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Originally Posted by mrdragster1970
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Will be using a Canfield head when I build mine. Don't know what part number, it's a 6 hole head. Will try to find model. My expert swears by them. Good luck.

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Damn since when did Canfield have a LSX head on the market??
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
if max effort is the name of the game, ET canted valve and a sheet metal intake, make 900 rw on motor
900 rwHP on motor would be pretty un-streetable, if at all possible to begin with.

ET canted valve heads and a sheet metal intake are on "Colonel's" 427. 15:1 cr and race gas, open headers....made somewhere in the neighborhood of 840 FWHP, about 715 RWHP.

Another 185 RWHP won't happen, where will it come from?????


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colniel's motor is a 427.... build a 480 CI motor and I bet you see close to 100 more hp at least, I don't think 427 ci is enough to even come close to maxing those heads out.

o.k. maybe you won't get to 900 rw, but over 800 should be possible
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So nobody knows anything about those All Pro Hurricane heads?? Would a set of ET 265's be enough to run on a big cube motor??
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Originally Posted by Quickin
900 rwHP on motor would be pretty un-streetable, if at all possible to begin with.

ET canted valve heads and a sheet metal intake are on "Colonel's" 427. 15:1 cr and race gas, open headers....made somewhere in the neighborhood of 840 FWHP, about 715 RWHP.

Another 185 RWHP won't happen, where will it come from?????


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Read ET's website, with a similar intake port design, a 400c.i. Ford motor made 1055hp@9700rpms. Its a little high strung but they're awesome heads.
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Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
So nobody knows anything about those All Pro Hurricane heads?? Would a set of ET 265's be enough to run on a big cube motor??
It depends on what you want out of them. The all-pro heads are available from a as cast bare head to a fully ported assembled head. They would be perfect for a solid roller, as the CNC versions flow doesn't nose over until way the hell up there.

As far as the 265's, they would be perfect for a street focused 454, that would still make killer power.

All of them would require a custom intake to really see their potential. The Wilson billet would be perfect for a max effort street motor IMO
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Originally Posted by WickEdSix98
Read ET's website, with a similar intake port design, a 400c.i. Ford motor made 1055hp@9700rpms. Its a little high strung but they're awesome heads.


Exactly where I was getting the 900 rwhp # from... if that head on a 400 ci motor could makethat power, with a 460 to 480 ci lsx I see no reason it couldn't do it, and probably at close to 1000 rpm less
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Originally Posted by WickEdSix98
Read ET's website, with a similar intake port design, a 400c.i. Ford motor made 1055hp@9700rpms. Its a little high strung but they're awesome heads.
Yeah, but now we're getting into pure race gas, probably solid roller, $10,000 valve train, and massive compression. Like I said, unstreetable for all practical purposes.

We're all talking about daily driver LSx's. Not pure drag engines that get rebuilt every couple months.

I think 700-750 RWHP is all we're gonna see for a true daily driver. And thats gonna be EXPENSIVE AS HELL.

And that 400ci Ford is about 840 RWHP. Which would be nice if it was a daily drivable engine.

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If you're looking to daily drive 700 hp, n/a isn't the way to go about that I can promise you.... I'm making about 630 at the crank now and there's noone I know that would want to drive it daily that's for sure. It's a blast to drive, but the 9 mpg would drive you broke, 700 n/a is gonna get about 6 mpg maybe.
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Does the block accept traditional SBC/BBC mounts as well as LSx mounts as was discussed during R&D?
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It only has the LS 4 bolt pattern.


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Originally Posted by 93Polo
Does the block accept traditional SBC/BBC mounts as well as LSx mounts as was discussed during R&D?
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
If you're looking to daily drive 700 hp, n/a isn't the way to go about that I can promise you.... I'm making about 630 at the crank now and there's noone I know that would want to drive it daily that's for sure. It's a blast to drive, but the 9 mpg would drive you broke, 700 n/a is gonna get about 6 mpg maybe.
Wait a minute, wait a minute..........

When my 436 was new it had almost 630 crank HP. It dynoed around 488 RWHP, than later 492 RWHP, than after I gutted my cats I'm sure it was close if not at 500 RWHP. Whatever, thats all splitting hairs.
Point is: It's a PERFECT daily driver, idle's close to stock, and has been my daily driver for 9 years, the last 5 years with my 436 stroker. It did 24-27 mpg HWY and about 15-17 mpg in the city (230-260 per tank depending on how I drove it)..........as a 436 stroker.

We will be seeing NORMALLY ASPIRATED 650-700 RWHP cars soon, and in about 8-12 months they will be common place, just like everything else.

My 436 is coming out very soon, like a month, a 454ci LSX is getting built and replacing it.

IT WILL have 650 RWHP, maybe more. And it's not gonna only get 6 mpg, thats a pathetic piece of **** engine that had its place back in the 1960's. I don't know who's building your pieces of ****, but 6 mpg is Pro-Stock 6 second cars. My car WILL get very good mileage for what it is.


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First off, eastside built my motor, their rep. speaks for itself. 2nd, if you are putting a motor like what you are talking about in a car with a 4ljunkie transmission, be ready to put a tranny in the car every week... no 4ljunkie is gonna take that power and survive, it's th400 or glide time, or a 4l80 at a minimum..... but I figure you already know that.. and should be planning accordignly
Having 700 rwhp thru a driveline like a motor like that should have, will get 6 maybe 8 mpg, and I question if that power level can be reached with pump gas, it's gonna take some compression to get to 700 rw on motor thru a th400/glide.

I'd like to see you get the mileage you are stating thru a th400/5000+ converter..... that's not gonna happen.

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