Looking For A Good 427 Shortblock
07-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Looking For A Good 427 Shortblock So Ive been searching around but cant find what im looking for. Who makes a good 427ci short block? I already know what heads and cam Im gonna go with but just want a reliable shortblock, that can handle a small shot of nitrous. I plan on just driving the car on weekends or if its nice outside.
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07-30-2007, 01:04 AM
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Let me add to the list of tuners here who can build you a killer 427 shortblock at a great price:
LME, Canadian Performance, Wheel 2 Wheel, and last but not least ERIK KOENIG of HK Racing!
LME, Canadian Performance, Wheel 2 Wheel, and last but not least ERIK KOENIG of HK Racing!
08-04-2007, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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I say a big NO on this one as they built me 2 different 427 LSX motors in the past and both failed with 4K and 10K miles on them (and never saw any spray or other F/I) and one of them was even a 427 C5R motor!
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08-04-2007, 03:53 AM
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I say a big NO on this one as they built me 2 different 427 LSX motors in the past and both failed with 4K and 10K miles on them (and never saw any spray or other F/I) and one of them was even a 427 C5R motor!
After 2 in a row, one is almost inclined to say "operator error".
How did they fail?
08-04-2007, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
So because you destroyed 2 modded engines after 4,000 and 10,000 miles, they build bad motors?
After 2 in a row, one is almost inclined to say "operator error".
How did they fail?
After 2 in a row, one is almost inclined to say "operator error".
How did they fail?
I don't see a motor blowing at 10k because of the way it was built...
08-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by beardWS6
ERIK KOENIG of HK Racing! He built my 408! Great Guy to work with!!
sent Erik a used 6.0 block.... came back to dallas with this!
So far I am impressed and his reputation is stellar!
08-05-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
So because you destroyed 2 modded engines after 4,000 and 10,000 miles, they build bad motors?
After 2 in a row, one is almost inclined to say "operator error".
How did they fail?
After 2 in a row, one is almost inclined to say "operator error".
How did they fail?
WRONG,
First motor, iron 427, bored 4.060 with 4.125 crank. The crank welds on the brand new CALLIES 4.125 crank failed along with the reluctor wheel and the heads were overported and drinking oil like water. I was told by certain vendor that geometry on the motor was wrong for an ironblock!
Second Motor, C5R 427 Motor, N/A, also ended up drinking water b/c they used EPOXY for a bandaid fix to fix the overported heads on the first motor (instead of giving me new stage III LS6 heads) and the second motor ended up drinking oil and had to be rebuilt b/c major sludge found throughout the entire motor. Screw up once, ok, we are all human. Screw up twice b/c you do a bandaid fix on a $20K C5R motor and I say
never going to get any more business from me or get anymore positive recommendations from me.I recommend LME, ERIK KOENIG, CANADIAN PERFORMANCE, or VENGEANCE RACING!
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08-06-2007, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
WRONG,
First motor, iron 427, bored 4.060 with 4.125 crank. The crank welds on the brand new CALLIES 4.125 crank failed along with the reluctor wheel and the heads were overported and drinking oil like water. I was told by certain vendor that geometry on the motor was wrong for an ironblock!
First motor, iron 427, bored 4.060 with 4.125 crank. The crank welds on the brand new CALLIES 4.125 crank failed along with the reluctor wheel and the heads were overported and drinking oil like water. I was told by certain vendor that geometry on the motor was wrong for an ironblock!
Nice try though.
Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
Second Motor, C5R 427 Motor, N/A, also ended up drinking water b/c they used EPOXY for a bandaid fix to fix the overported heads on the first motor (instead of giving me new stage III LS6 heads) and the second motor ended up drinking oil and had to be rebuilt b/c major sludge found throughout the entire motor. Screw up once, ok, we are all human. Screw up twice b/c you do a bandaid fix on a $20K C5R motor and I say never going to get any more business from me or get anymore positive recommendations from me.
I recommend LME, ERIK KOENIG, CANADIAN PERFORMANCE, or VENGEANCE RACING!
never going to get any more business from me or get anymore positive recommendations from me.I recommend LME, ERIK KOENIG, CANADIAN PERFORMANCE, or VENGEANCE RACING!
Sound slike you cheaped out on your engine maintenance and blame the builder for your own misfortunes.
08-06-2007, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
So the welds on a crank Callies made failed after 4,000miles? Seems like thats not the engine builders fault but rather the crank vendors problem - di dyou ever take this up with them?
Nice try though.
yes there was issues with the CALLIES crank and the vendor admitted that the geometry of the motor was off and they overported the heads and that is why motor was using oil like water as one of the heads was cracked from the overporting. How is this not the fault of the engine build who hand ported the heads themselves?
So after 10,000 miles you claim that "sludge" and "epoxy" in the heads destroyed the second motor?
Sound slike you cheaped out on your engine maintenance and blame the builder for your own misfortunes.
Nice try though.
yes there was issues with the CALLIES crank and the vendor admitted that the geometry of the motor was off and they overported the heads and that is why motor was using oil like water as one of the heads was cracked from the overporting. How is this not the fault of the engine build who hand ported the heads themselves?
So after 10,000 miles you claim that "sludge" and "epoxy" in the heads destroyed the second motor?
Sound slike you cheaped out on your engine maintenance and blame the builder for your own misfortunes.
! THey built you a good motor I hope and have built many good motors, but they have also screwed a lot of stuff up and their customer service has gone in the toilet the last several years and if you don't believe me do a litte search here and you will find hours and hours of reading. These shops get too big for their own good and it causes the customer service often time to get to **** and its unfortunate and the consumer suffers along with the ongoing reputation of the business! The rebuild of my new motor after the first one took a dump of course took about twice as long as it should have but that is a whole other issue. 
The mark of a GOOD TUNER is how they respond in fixing something after there is an issue. In my case, they failed here big time regarding the issue of the bandaid fix on the heads that caused the second motor to end up being junk in the long run and taking their sweet time on getting the second motor built and putting the project on the back burner (as the labor was free from warranty from first motor that failed). I'm done here as I said what was on my mind and no reason to beat a dead horse anymore regarding my experience with the shop in question!
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08-06-2007, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
WRONG, the car had to be shipped back to them after 2000 miles b/c of MAJOR OIL CONSUMPTION ISSUES (that's not CALLIES FALUT) on the first motor b/c heads were cracked from overporting and they attempted to fix the crack by using epoxy (instead of replacing the heads.) When that motor crapped out b/c of crank (YEAH CALLIES also gets blame here I'll give you that) and the car had to be shipped back a second time for the new build of my second motor (427 N/A C5R no motor EVER saw juice or f/i), they used the same heads from the fist motor and the EXPOXY was obviously a band aid fix and did not do the job, as the C5R motor also ended up having MAJOR oil comsumptions issues b/c the EPOXY did not hold. I take care of my **** and changed the oil every 2000 miles and used the exact break in procedure on the second motor. Now I take it that was my fault to and not the engine buillder's fault that the second motor failed b/c of their bandaid fix on the heads, huh. If you really think that then all i have to say here is ! THey built you a good motor I hope and have built many good motors, but they have also screwed a lot of stuff up and their customer service has gone in the toilet the last several years and if you don't believe me to a litte search here and you will find hours and hours of reading. These shops get too big for their own good and it causes the customer service often time to get to **** and its unfortunate and the consumer suffers along with the ongoing reputation of the business! The rebuild of my new motor after the first one took a dump of course took about twice as long as it should have but that is a whole other issue. The mark of a GOOD TUNER is how they respond in fixing something after there is an issue. In my case, they failed here big time regarding the issue of the bandaid fix on the heads that caused the second motor to end up being junk in the long run and taking their sweet time on getting the second motor built and putting the project on the back burner (as the labor was free from warranty from first motor that failed).
I'm done here as I said what was on my mind and no reason to beat a dead horse anymore regarding my experience with the shop in question!
! THey built you a good motor I hope and have built many good motors, but they have also screwed a lot of stuff up and their customer service has gone in the toilet the last several years and if you don't believe me to a litte search here and you will find hours and hours of reading. These shops get too big for their own good and it causes the customer service often time to get to **** and its unfortunate and the consumer suffers along with the ongoing reputation of the business! The rebuild of my new motor after the first one took a dump of course took about twice as long as it should have but that is a whole other issue. The mark of a GOOD TUNER is how they respond in fixing something after there is an issue. In my case, they failed here big time regarding the issue of the bandaid fix on the heads that caused the second motor to end up being junk in the long run and taking their sweet time on getting the second motor built and putting the project on the back burner (as the labor was free from warranty from first motor that failed). I'm done here as I said what was on my mind and no reason to beat a dead horse anymore regarding my experience with the shop in question!
*shrug*
