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Old 10-04-2007, 09:21 PM
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Got the Engine together!! Just need to get it into the car!!!!
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Originally Posted by Doc99SS
What are your cam specs?
Dont ask dont tell
Old 10-05-2007, 03:46 AM
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I like how you painted the belt accesories, looks great.

I think everyone is eagerly awaiting the dyno sheet.
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Originally Posted by OneQuickCoupe
Your build/parts list shows,
"Wiseco 4.187” custom forged nitrous pistons w/ lateral gas ports & tool steel pins".

I believe this type of gas porting is a series of radial channels milled into the upper portion of the top ring land and if that's the case you may not be able to see them when the short block is assembled.

D.J.

Dose anyone have a picture of these pistion Lateral gas ports??
Do these type of Ports also Plug up over time?
What kind of ring life can I expect out of this engine?
Thanks
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http://www.cppistons.com/products/cu...ons/index.html

Look under custom pistons, Gas ports like you have are shown.

D.J.
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The laterals aren't quite as effective as vertical gas ports, but it's standard for high-end circle track, road racers, cup cars, etc. They won't become plugged. The grooves we cut into the top lands of our pistons also serve to stop the buildup of carbon on the land that can interfere with ring function. I think you'll be suprised at the life you get out of these rings even with the gas ports. Keep us updated! -Brian Nutter-Wiseco Piston
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Blamo:


Originally Posted by briannutter
The laterals aren't quite as effective as vertical gas ports, but it's standard for high-end circle track, road racers, cup cars, etc. They won't become plugged. The grooves we cut into the top lands of our pistons also serve to stop the buildup of carbon on the land that can interfere with ring function. I think you'll be suprised at the life you get out of these rings even with the gas ports. Keep us updated! -Brian Nutter-Wiseco Piston
It would be interesting, but difficult to perform a test on how gas ports affect engine life. Ideally running 2 engines exact engines with the only variable being the gas ports and seeing how long they last.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
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It would be interesting, but difficult to perform a test on how gas ports affect engine life. Ideally running 2 engines exact engines with the only variable being the gas ports and seeing how long they last.
Those big holes in the oil ring land arent gas ports. Gas ports are only machined into the top ring land. Those holes in the pic are just for oil drain back.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
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It would be interesting, but difficult to perform a test on how gas ports affect engine life. Ideally running 2 engines exact engines with the only variable being the gas ports and seeing how long they last.
i dont tink it would be too har, just simultaneously run 2 motors on engine dynos. i think it would just be costly and time consuming
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With that stock TB and intake things are going to be asthmatic.

When you save up enough the tfs 235cc heads with fast90/90 will make a good bit of difference It makes a big enough difference on stock displacement let alone with 100 extra cubes!
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Originally Posted by ringram
With that stock TB and intake things are going to be asthmatic.

When you save up enough the tfs 235cc heads with fast90/90 will make a good bit of difference It makes a big enough difference on stock displacement let alone with 100 extra cubes!
Yea it will probably fall flat on its face at 5000-5500RPM
It should have a ton of tourqe tough.
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Originally Posted by ringram
With that stock TB and intake things are going to be asthmatic.

When you save up enough the tfs 235cc heads with fast90/90 will make a good bit of difference It makes a big enough difference on stock displacement let alone with 100 extra cubes!
I plan on going with Ported LS7 heads, port matched Ls7 intake, Fast 90mm TB, Bigger MAF Sensor, ect.. Unless something better comes along Before I get the money for this stuff!!

I also need a 9" rear, beefy driveshaft, RPM Tranns, ect..
Can anyone reccomend a axle ratio for my 9" ?? Mostly street uses some 1/4 mile.
Old 10-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Hotbird
Oil pump
Headers
Balancer
injectors
Motormounts
Tranny mounts
Clutch
Starter
fuel system
cat back
9" with driveshaft
Performance transmission
The list never ends$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

When I get some time I will list the cost for this build!!! Its probably around $13,000

LOL, you don't have to tell me. I have done a complete build on mine as well.

engine
tranny
9" rear
clutch
D.S.
K-member
Qa1's
lca's
lower a-arms
rear sway bar
double adjustable rear panhard

blah,blah,blah...
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That is one MEAN looking engine, I cant wait to see what its gonna look like in your car and how its going to sound and perform. I wanna see a vid ASAP!!! lol.
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Its In!







Now I need to;

1. Figure out why My ABS inop and traction control lights are on? (I think its because you need a computer hooked up when you bleed the brakes??
2. Exhust
3. Alignment
4. Dyno Tune
5. Enjoy my New 100,000 mile car

Do you like the color?? I painted the car my self!!!
Old 10-08-2007, 09:08 PM
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nice build. you should run a breather instead of the oil cap
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This is how I bought the car about 2 years ago!
It looks nice in the picture but its in bad condition!
The engine was Knocking, the tranny wouldn't go into 3rd, It needed alot of body work, Axle berings where shot, the interior was shot, Ect..................

I got it dirt cheep!!

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Originally Posted by Mia
nice build. you should run a breather instead of the oil cap

Yea I think I need to redo the whole PCV system.
Where can I get a catch can and breather for the filler??
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
Let's do a little math here.

Shortblock $6200
Heads $1700
Cam $350
Intake $250
Timing Chain$100
Injectors $400

That is 9K right there and there is no labor.

Not calling you a liar at all. I would just question the quality of the engine at that price.

Fast, reliable, cheap. You can only pick 2.
I just got a quote from a reputable sponsor here for an lsx 454 longblock complete from intake to pil pan (I'll provide the pan and windage tray though from my motor) At just under 12k. At this includes ported ls7 heads that are just over 3k with titanium intake valves and stainless exhausts.

Shortblock...cam..heads...intake...throttle body...fuel fails... oil pump... all valvetrain...

Only thing I didnt like that I saw was scat rods and eagle crank which it's less then 1k to upgrade those... so figure just 12,8xx for the longblock.

then i'll just need injectors, a balancer and whatever electrial crap tyo make it work... MAP extension... etc.
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Originally Posted by jermzz
I just got a quote from a reputable sponsor here for an lsx 454 longblock complete from intake to pil pan (I'll provide the pan and windage tray though from my motor) At just under 12k. At this includes ported ls7 heads that are just over 3k with titanium intake valves and stainless exhausts.

Shortblock...cam..heads...intake...throttle body...fuel fails... oil pump... all valvetrain...

Only thing I didnt like that I saw was scat rods and eagle crank which it's less then 1k to upgrade those... so figure just 12,8xx for the longblock.

then i'll just need injectors, a balancer and whatever electrial crap tyo make it work... MAP extension... etc.
im guessing tsp? gettign it all in parts and putting it all together is the fun part. when i order mine the only thing i wont put together is the shortblock. not only o you have a feeling of accomplishment, but you learn how **** works in case it breaks


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