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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Default I want a RELIABLE stroker!!!!!!!

I'm looking for a 525ish rwhp engine for my '01 Z06. So most likely I'd end up with a LS2 402, L92 heads, etc. and call it a day.

What I am MOST concerned with is RELIABILITY. I want to keep my car running and not worry about oil consumption or some other issue that seems to plague some of these strokers. I honestly only track my car once every year or two, its a weekend toy that sees 3-4K miles a year, mostly a cruiser for my wife and I to go out with or do some spirited runs on the highway.

Since reliability is way at the top of my list, does it make sense for me to buy a LS3 crate engine, throw a cam in it and be done with it? That way I have a engine that will easily run 100K miles worry free. I know it would require installation of 24X reluctor wheel, crank sensor, 2X cam gear and cam sensor. How hard is it to do these things? And how much more would I end up spending to get these things swapped to work in my '01 Z06?

Or, is there a builder that can give me a 3yr/36K mile warranty on their LS2 stroker?
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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I'm looking for a 525ish rwhp engine for my '01 Z06. So most likely I'd end up with a LS2 402, L92 heads, etc. and call it a day.

What I am MOST concerned with is RELIABILITY. I want to keep my car running and not worry about oil consumption or some other issue that seems to plague some of these strokers. I honestly only track my car once every year or two, its a weekend toy that sees 3-4K miles a year, mostly a cruiser for my wife and I to go out with or do some spirited runs on the highway.

Since reliability is way at the top of my list, does it make sense for me to buy a LS3 crate engine, throw a cam in it and be done with it? That way I have a engine that will easily run 100K miles worry free. I know it would require installation of 24X reluctor wheel, crank sensor, 2X cam gear and cam sensor. How hard is it to do these things? And how much more would I end up spending to get these things swapped to work in my '01 Z06?

Or, is there a builder that can give me a 3yr/36K mile warranty on their LS2 stroker?
Almost every shop offers a 2yr/24,000 mile FULL parts and labor warranty, if they don't, DO NOT use them. Some shops also offer a 3yr/36,000 if you pay a little extra for it.

Don;t know what your RWHP goal is or your budget, but you should get a 416ci with L92 heads and L76 intake....it'll make about 520-530 RWHP (M6) and idle almost like stock. $10,000 or less and it'll last for years and years and burn no oil.

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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Almost every shop offers a 2yr/24,000 mile FULL parts and labor warranty, if they don't, DO NOT use them. Some shops also offer a 3yr/36,000 if you pay a little extra for it.

Don;t know what your RWHP goal is or your budget, but you should get a 416ci with L92 heads and L76 intake....it'll make about 520-530 RWHP (M6) and idle almost like stock. $10,000 or less and it'll last for years and years and burn no oil.

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Anyone know how much $$$ it'll take to convert a LS3 crate engine to run in '01 Z06?
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Hmmm, strange LME is one of the best builders out there.
My warranty was 90 days.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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GMPP will have several versions of a Crate LS3 in a few months.

Great warranty and proven power.


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GMPP will have several versions of a Crate LS3 in a few months.

Great warranty and proven power.


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Yes, I know that.

My question still is, how much will it cost to convert it to run a '01 LS vehicle?
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Hmmm, strange LME is one of the best builders out there.
My warranty was 90 days.
A 90-day warranty is completely pathetic and does nothing but show you there confidence in their own product.

2yr/24,000 mile warranty is industry standard, if you're a good builder. And ifthe engine is to stay N/A. Anything less is just pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
A 90-day warranty is completely pathetic and does nothing but show you there confidence in their own product.

2yr/24,000 mile warranty is industry standard, if you're a good builder. And ifthe engine is to stay N/A. Anything less is just pathetic.



that is completly untrue..... the engine could be perfectly fine and they put it in and do something wrong or put nitrous on it or the tuner isnt good and the engine could very well blow...i will only offer a warrenty if i get them every part and install it and tune it my self....and know that no nitrous or anything was on the car....
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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that is completly untrue..... the engine could be perfectly fine and they put it in and do something wrong or put nitrous on it or the tuner isnt good and the engine could very well blow...i will only offer a warrenty if i get them every part and install it and tune it my self....and know that no nitrous or anything was on the car....
I can understand everything you are saying except the whole nitrous thing. These motors are built to be abused, why get a built motor if you cant beat on it, now I can understand if a 500 shot is sprayed on it or something but come any nitrous and you wont warranty it?
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I can understand everything you are saying except the whole nitrous thing. These motors are built to be abused, why get a built motor if you cant beat on it, now I can understand if a 500 shot is sprayed on it or something but come any nitrous and you wont warranty it?



nitrous is a very tempermental thing....lean it out to much and it will melt a piston instantly.... spray to early and it could cause a nitrous back fire....there are plenty of reasons why people are scared of nitrous....but if done right it works great.... but its to risky to warrenty something like that.... to my knowledge i dont know of a company who will warrenty a nitrous motor....
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I understand from a builders perspective on not wanting to warranty it, besides its pretty obvious when a motor fails due to nitrous.
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Call Erik Koenig, HKRacing ultra reliable and warranted. Talk to him for about a 1/2 hour and you will give him the order. Better yet do a search on him!!!
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Call Erik Koenig, HKRacing ultra reliable and warranted. Talk to him for about a 1/2 hour and you will give him the order. Better yet do a search on him!!!


hes the one who does all my engines.... he is prob the best LSX machinist i know....
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Don;t know what your RWHP goal is or your budget, but you should get a 416ci with L92 heads and L76 intake....it'll make about 520-530 RWHP (M6) and idle almost like stock. $10,000 or less and it'll last for years and years and burn no oil.

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I like my LME 416 L92 Great driveability, I can cruise in 6th at 1300rpms with a trailer of gear, and it took out my diff without using a drop of oil
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71
I can understand everything you are saying except the whole nitrous thing. These motors are built to be abused, why get a built motor if you cant beat on it, now I can understand if a 500 shot is sprayed on it or something but come any nitrous and you wont warranty it?
I agree with the nitrous....if ANY nitrous is used I would not expect 1 day/1 mile of warranty. But thats what I said...the 2yr/24,000 mile warranty is for an N/A engine. Almost every builder out there offers that warranty. IMO, you must or I won't even call you for a quote. You can tell if an engine was blown due to nitrous, than you just void the warranty.

ARE warranteed my 436 stroker for 2yr/24,000 miles and they stood by it 1 1/2 years later when the rings did not seat properly during break-in, I drove it for 1 /12 years than they rebuilt it for me because it was burning oil. They rebuilt it and didn't charge me a single penny. 94,000+ miles later its running like a top. Burning oil though, but thats expected with 94K on the clock.

The guy building my LSX 481ci is giving me a 2yr/24,000 mile warranty as well, as long as I stay N/A.

Its industry standard.


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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71
I can understand everything you are saying except the whole nitrous thing. These motors are built to be abused, why get a built motor if you cant beat on it, now I can understand if a 500 shot is sprayed on it or something but come any nitrous and you wont warranty it?
I really don't know anyone that will warranty a nitrous engine. And there are only two builders that I know of that will warranty their forced induction engines. LPE, who simply rips their customers off and just charges 2-3 times what the set-up costs to build, so they can afford to rebuild it if it blows. And NRE, who charges a fair price and just builds a rock solid FI set-up.


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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
I like my LME 416 L92 Great driveability, I can cruise in 6th at 1300rpms with a trailer of gear, and it took out my diff without using a drop of oil

What did your complete engine cost?

RWHP/RWTQ?

M6....A4???
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Just because something has a warranty doesn't mean it's the best... Sometimes it's used to cover their bad. Seen that one a bunch before. That said, I can't think of any reason why someone would even contemplate warranting a nitrous engine.

Talk to a builder, convey things personally. A builder should stand behind their product regardless.

And how it's tuned can have a lot to do with it as well.

I've commisioned a hairy *** 402, it'll be durable and reliable first and foremost before power, but it'll have set maintenance schedules (change oil every 800 mi, check valvetrain every 3 months regardless etc. etc.)

Best of luck on your quest for power!
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Just because something has a warranty doesn't mean it's the best... Sometimes it's used to cover their bad. Seen that one a bunch before. That said, I can't think of any reason why someone would even contemplate warranting a nitrous engine.

Talk to a builder, convey things personally. A builder should stand behind their product regardless.

And how it's tuned can have a lot to do with it as well.

I've commisioned a hairy *** 402, it'll be durable and reliable first and foremost before power, but it'll have set maintenance schedules (change oil every 800 mi, check valvetrain every 3 months regardless etc. etc.)

Best of luck on your quest for power!
MTI, ARE, LPE, Futral, Norris Motorsports, W2W, AirFlo-Technology and almost all the top named shops offer a 2yr/24,000 mile FULL parts and labor warranty on N/A engines. A person would have to be an idiot not to go with a shop that offers this over a shop that does not offer it. And some offer a 3yr/36,000 mile for like $1,500 extra.

In most cases, a shop that offers a warranty is one of the BEST out there.


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I am still VERY interested in a LS3 crate engine and just throw a cam in it. With all the bolt ons its proven to provide 500rwhp, at the same time you have a VERY reliable engine.

But does anyone know how much it would take to make that work in my car?

I know it would require installation of 24X reluctor wheel, crank sensor, 2X cam gear and cam sensor. How hard is it to do these things? And how much more would I end up spending to get these things swapped to work in my '01 Z06?

Does anyone know the answer to THIS question?
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