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Old 12-28-2007, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HTMtrSprt
What I haven't seen mentioned yet is to remove all the plugs from the motor so there is no compression load on the bearings or wrist pins. The engine will also spin faster this way which may help get the oil pump to prime if lack of prime is the problem. I have always been able to get oil pressure this way before firing the engine up the first time. FWIW - the oil pump should always be assembled with assembly lube or light grease to insure that it primes quickly.

I agree with that. Good idea to center the pump on the crank. Should be .002 all around snout. Make sure bleed off spring is good. If you shim it, you will see more pressure.
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Originally Posted by 3fingas
Make sure bleed off spring is good. If you shim it, you will see more pressure.
I would have to add that I have yet to see a need for an HV pump or a need to raise the pressure in an LSx motor..... even our Super Stock engines run std pumps with very thin oil and only make 45-50 PSI at 8500+ through the lights and the bearings from these engines look beautiful.
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Originally Posted by HTMtrSprt
I would have to add that I have yet to see a need for an HV pump or a need to raise the pressure in an LSx motor..... even our Super Stock engines run std pumps with very thin oil and only make 45-50 PSI at 8500+ through the lights and the bearings from these engines look beautiful.
I agree though im sure that you would agree that not every engine is spec'd the same. If he has to pull the pump (OEM or HV) b/c thats the origin of the loss of pressure. He should disasemble and inspect it and if it is a stock unit, port it, lube it and center it. It may be worth his while since it's a new build. It's worth the thirty or so minutes. Good Insurance IMO.
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Not to mention, the shimming is to prevent the bypass valve from sticking. Had a local guy's car do that a couple of years ago. Goes by "baked" on this board.
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Originally Posted by 3fingas
I agree with that. Good idea to center the pump on the crank. Should be .002 all around snout. Make sure bleed off spring is good. If you shim it, you will see more pressure.
You'll only see higher pressure at higher rpms. At idle it wont make a bit of difference.
PS. Aside from priming the pump, and assuring the plug and dumbell are in place, one of the best things you can do is pull the pressure sender, and trickle oil in with a small hose. Be patient and keep putting oil in til it wont take any more. We have a set up to pressurize the system through that port, before we ever crank em over. But, just pouring it in very slowly should get the galleys full, and basically prime the system.

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Originally Posted by Whistler
Are you running a double roller timing chain?
Yes, it has a double roller in it. It has a shimmed LS2 pump in it.

Because of the holiday's there has been no work on it besides checking the front plug for oil. It was dry so it will require removal of the pump.

I am having it towed from the installers place to a mechanic near me so he can take all the accessories off and pull the pump. I don't want to have the motor pulled because it would cost me for the r&r again.
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Why don't you just do it and save the time and money?
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Did you put a mechanical gauge on the engine to verify this?
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mine took a good 15-20 seconds to build some pressure. but its been fine since day 1.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Why don't you just do it and save the time and money?
I am not that mechanically inclined plus I don't have the tools to do it myself.

The engine builder suggested priming the pump by adding oil through the front plug and cranking the engine counter clock wise manually before pulling all the accessories off and pulling the pump.

My question at this point is does cranking it any further weather manually or using the starter cause any damage to the cylinder walls? If after we pump some oil into the engine we put the fuel relay back in and try starting it again or start it for an additional 10-15 seconds will it harm anything?
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Originally Posted by WE TODD DID
Did you put a mechanical gauge on the engine to verify this?
The gauge was working just fine prior to the new engine going in plus there is no oil in the galley.
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Originally Posted by SRT10KLLR
The gauge was working just fine prior to the new engine going in plus there is no oil in the galley.
I would make sure before you start taking **** apart! The sending unit could have went bad, or wire, or whatever. You never know? Plus, being a new engine, its gonna take a few seconds to get it primed up. Like the other guys said, as much as 20-30 seconds sometimes. Pull the ECM fuse, and spin that bitch!
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Just sounds like you've spun it plenty of times by now and should be able to tell.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Just sounds like you've spun it plenty of times by now and should be able to tell.
My concern is that all the assemble lube used is all but gone at this point and it is now running dry. I don't want to hurt anything.
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Update:

I had the truck towed to a mechanic friend of mine that lives 2 miles from my house and he thinks that the oil pick-up tube is not on correctly. Does the "O" ring from the 5.3 truck engine match correctly to the LS2 oil pump?

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:17 PM
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I dont post much but maybe I can help. If its a new block there is a very small about 6 mm freeze oil galley plug behind timing cover that is a pressure fit, might have not got installed due to the fact that it doesnt come on new blocks. You have to order it separately. Now ask builder if this might have been overlooked
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the oring on the pick up tube maybe? thats usually alot of it.



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