Damn!! Everything is made in China!!! Even that United States of America flag that is hangin on the flagpole at the White House as a matter of fact the flagpole probably came from there too!!..But really, there are ALOT of hipo parts that are made overseas even those eagle cranks and comp cams pro mag rockers, both are forged overseas

 

GM does clainm the block can handle 2500hp.Im not sure if this is true or not.In a way it sucks because I am close to ordering one for my 455ci build for my WS6 but also of there is a flaw id like it taken care of before I buy one.It is terrible however for everyone that has already built and run a motor based on the block that now have to question is integrity.I just hope if there is a major flaw GM will do something to help out everyone who has already purchased one.

 

made in china because they have no UAW to overcharge the OEM's.

 

Theres lots of reasons why things are made were they are made. Mercedes in Germany is union were the plant in Alabama is not, some speculate thats the reason why they came here and why there are 3 vehicles produced at that plant now. Too much politics involved and bean counters to really say what, when, were and how but thats the way it is in big business. I believe its a contractual problem myself.

 

They also dont cast to the same standards as done in the US and so flaws are a result. And lead paint on kids toys, etc... Problem is you just dont know what your getting from China right now. This is a country that just executed its surgeon general for passing drugs that eventualy killed people.

All I want is a damn engine. First I choose the LS7 block then I hear it has cracking issue with a sleeve or thats the rumor.

Then I say ok the LSX block and rumors are casting flaw.

WTF?

 

ya know, hearing it comes out of china, its hard to believe its not contaminated with lead too.

 

Sounds like you ate some lead paint as a kid. I dont care where it came from if there is a flaw I want to know before I purchase one.


And yes Virginia China and lead paint on kids toys was/is an issue as well as phony pharmaceuticals. They dont have the same infrastructure, its an issue right now they are working to resolve. Try reading international news once in a while

 

Maybe you need to rethink your build AFTER you have the correct information. Why in the world would SDPC tell someone NOT to buy one of their motors because their was a rumor about a flaw in a motor? Dont you think they would want to wait until after they had a credible story?

Thats like GM calling all of their dealers to tell them not to sell any cars cause some pissed off guy went and spewed a bunch of information on the internet. It dont make sense. You dont alarm people unless theres something to be alarmed about.

Look at it this way, there is no less than 5 threads on 3 different sites, ALL talking about the motors having some sort of casting issue, yet NO ONE has any proof.. 100% of it is "I have a buddy that is a credible source, that says he was talking to a janitor, and he overheard a story in a bathroom about the LSx block." Its ALL internet speculation.

Trust me, I want to know as well. Cause "I" own one. But i'm not about to go calling anyone until my **** either breaks, or there is some sort of formal announcement.

 

The one thread said 30 failures? Then there are threads about the LS7 cracked sleeve but no actualy person saying they broke one. I totally understand what your saying. SO how does one know the truth? It has been suggested that SDPC knows about it. I'll ask them when I talk to them. I just want a dependable setup

 

its bs everyone saw comming. if you trust china you need to rethink that. i do pay attention to world events and china will do nothing but talk.

 

What re-course do you have though if something does happen to it?

 

Thats right. The blocks are fine. The issues are over the friggin contract. "WHO gets the molds after the contract is fulfilled." Thats what the argument/disagreement is about. The people who control the molds now shut down production until the contract is ironed out between them and GM. Thats all.

Most likely the molds will go to another country/company and the production will continue soon. The blocks are cast, then sent to GM for detail work.

GM basically had their heads up their asses with the contract. Now its in court...international court

If you want an LSX block for a build...get them while you can. I have 2 now (which I bought in the past 5 days) and I'm trying to get 3 more in the next week.

 

GM is ultimately responsible for everything, regarding its worldwide customers.

 

Theres always dart or world

 

Thats a good question.. I dont know.

I guess what it really boils down to, is what steps would be necessary to find out if theres a problem.

I mean, would you want to pull a 10K dollar longblock apart not knowing if it was gonna be one of the problem blocks? In my case, I would probably want to get some sort of written guarantee that IF something ever did happen to the motor, and it could be pointed at the block itself, then GM would replace the parts that were damaged.

Butt......... If I have a motor that puts out over 900rwhp on spray, and it lasts for a year or 2, can I really complain?

Thats the dilema.

It really boils down to what the problems are with the block to start with.

 

Guys, seriously a handful of you sound like little girls spreading gossip during recess on the playground!

Nobody knows for sure why they're back-ordered (or at least not anybody who's going to post on the boards). As for being unsure about a build with this block: People have taken stock LS6 cranks and LS1/6 blocks to 1000+hp! How strong is your build going to be? This block is better than that block ever was, hands down! Now if you were going to do your build in your garage (including boring, clearancing, etc) then yes....you could have issues with this and every other block out there! That's why we pay our machine shop good money to machine our builds! Whether is an uneven deck on the block, porous areas between cylinders, cam journals out of size specs, etc they go through every block we send over to ensure us that the builds will last!

So let's all calm down with posting links to the other school girls spreading rumors, and wait to see when the blocks start shipping again. This isn't the first back-order on a high demand and high performance part, and it won't be the last!

 

Nice! I'm supposed to be getting that 451 you have on the shelf, my phones been wacked though and I havent been able to get a hold of Brian. dsl works but phone is hosed

 

That 451 will hold whatever you can throw at it!! Brian's here and on the phones all day until 6:30pm central time. If you can't call out, shoot me a PM with your phone number and I can have Brian call you to chat if you need to!

 

Can you have him pm me with a breakdown to make it a long block? He and I talked about it already but didnt get down to it. I'm going to get a cheap phone and try and call. I have a cordless maybe its the problem. I really just need to pay for it. I was waiting for the check from my long block, wich I got and deposited, so it's time to get it done.

I sold my setup as a long block and am starting over. I kept the fuel rails and nick willams 90mm tb and valve covers. $5999 is what I was told for the SB. I was thinking about either getting some ls7 heads from you and sending them to LPE or going with TSP/PRC's LS7's and upgraded setup?
But I do have a budget, if I can save buy buying some used stuff I will.. ls7 intake, engine covers, stuff like that. No moving parts of course..lol

L92 L76 Intake manifold is that the same as an ls7?

 

No to the last question.

D.J.