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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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What kinds of cams are going into the LS3's? How much lift can you fit without flycutting? What are you guys using for the cam gear? How are the stock oil pumps? Thanks.
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Surely someone has to have an idea. I just want to know what kind of room there is with the big l92 valves.
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Here you go.
Dyno 480 hp L92
The GM Performance Parts engineers picked the LS Hot Cam (p/n 12617570) to take the LS3 to the next level. This cam specs out with .525-inch intake and exhaust valve lift. Duration (@ .050 inches) is 219° intake and 228° exhaust. This cam allows for a dramatic increase in power across the power band while still maintaining good street manners. The engine will idle and cruise just like an LS3, but the power increase is there whenever you need
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts/results.jsp
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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I think LSA was 110 or 112 had to go a couple places to find it.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Blindmelon
Here you go.
Dyno 480 hp L92
The GM Performance Parts engineers picked the LS Hot Cam (p/n 12617570) to take the LS3 to the next level. This cam specs out with .525-inch intake and exhaust valve lift. Duration (@ .050 inches) is 219° intake and 228° exhaust. This cam allows for a dramatic increase in power across the power band while still maintaining good street manners. The engine will idle and cruise just like an LS3, but the power increase is there whenever you need
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts/results.jsp
this p/n 12617570 is for a Connecting Rod not a cam
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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LG has some grinds that are kicking out close to 500 rwhp in vettes with untouched heads. They don't publish specs, but they have never been one to use small cams. Cartek has had some good results with 22X sized cams too.

Lift is rarely the issue in determining whether you will smack a piston. It is duration related. Probably the most common risk is hitting the piston at intake valve open. The bigger the duration, the earlier the IVO if a reasonable IVC is to be maintained.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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its similar to the G5x3 Joel just a little spice added My car made 507/458 on stock heads, and we had another roll through here ~ 501/47x, and another ~ 495/460. Those are the 3 most recent I can recall.
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its similar to the G5x3 Joel just a little spice added My car made 507/458 on stock heads, and we had another roll through here ~ 501/47x, and another ~ 495/460. Those are the 3 most recent I can recall.
Louis, have you spec'd cams for L92's and a single plane intake? I want to make power a little higher than 6300. I am planning a forged stock cube higher SCR LS3, with a single plane, on E85.
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Originally Posted by black_z
Louis, have you spec'd cams for L92's and a single plane intake? I want to make power a little higher than 6300. I am planning a forged stock cube higher SCR LS3, with a single plane, on E85.
The LS3s seem to respond with a little earlier intake valve closing point than cathedral port LS2s like, they also like a little earlier exhaust valve opening point. The net result is typically a small intake lobe, a generous split to the exhaust, and a little bit wider LSA.

But if you run a single plane intake, they will want an even earlier intake valve open and close, plus a later EVO/EVC. This will usually mean a little narrower LSA and about a 4 degree earlier IVC than what works best on an EFI manifold.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The LS3s seem to respond with a little earlier intake valve closing point than cathedral port LS2s like, they also like a little earlier exhaust valve opening point. The net result is typically a small intake lobe, a generous split to the exhaust, and a little bit wider LSA.

But if you run a single plane intake, they will want an even earlier intake valve open and close, plus a later EVO/EVC. This will usually mean a little narrower LSA and about a 4 degree earlier IVC than what works best on an EFI manifold.
Something like the one in my sig ? This one makes power to 6500 and hangs on well till 7k in stk stalled auto. I don't think it's perfect it's slightly lazy at the hit but pulls hard from 3800. Would a 224- 6xx lift intake lobe ground @ 0* on 112 work better than my current setup. IYHO

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I don't think it's perfect it's slightly lazy at the hit but pulls hard from 3800. Cheers
I'm betting the laziness is mostly due to the intake. Every LS3 graph I've seen is flat to about 3800 and then it is time to hold on tight.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The LS3s seem to respond with a little earlier intake valve closing point than cathedral port LS2s like, they also like a little earlier exhaust valve opening point. The net result is typically a small intake lobe, a generous split to the exhaust, and a little bit wider LSA.

But if you run a single plane intake, they will want an even earlier intake valve open and close, plus a later EVO/EVC. This will usually mean a little narrower LSA and about a 4 degree earlier IVC than what works best on an EFI manifold.
Interesting...... I think Rick and you are on the same page...... minus the split and EVC.
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