why not go with a 454 LSX crate?

 

It was just a casting flaw (rare), world is making good on it. Looks like a very nice block.

 

nope, your about 8,700 miles off

Cummins has engine blocks made in this region, possibly by same place?

 

Ha Ha India

 

The ones I have used were fine just had small issues mainly with the hardware. Tom Bates from GM is fixing those small issues and some were already addressed on the last few we got and the blocks should only be better and better. I know he said they might make some other improvements too as they go and learn more of what people want.

 

Is it iron? Who sells it?

 

it is an Lsx block,avail from a multiple of vendors,SDPC,TexasSpeed to name a few,and the only issue with my block was the cam bearings provided were to small,literally floated in the cam journals,other than that.... rock solid,I also have one of the lower number blocks out.

 

[QUOTE=MerlinPro;8746686][QUOTE=MerlinPro;8745813]Before explanation:
"Why is everything made like crap today? I just got my Warhawk today and am not to happy with that at all."
...after explanation:
"It was just a casting flaw (rare), world is making good on it. Looks like a very nice block." - Quotes from Kx69=QUOTE]

We’d like to make some facts clear about Thomas’ concerns. Bill Jr. and I carefully reviewed his PM (possibly sent after he posted here) and compared his info and pictures to a block on the shelf in inventory.

Bill gave me a comprehensive tech explanation for each of the questions Thom has. I wrote them in a PM and replied to him. Bill also called him and left a message. Bill has offered to exchange Thom’s block for a brand-new one. However a new one will look very much like his because nothing is wrong with his. There is no “casting flaw”. Most of his concerns are cosmetic only but they have been corrected as he has an early block. Thomas has since contacted us with a request to replace his block but there are time complications and business travel conflicts on his side. However, we ARE trying to come to terms.

The main area of question is the main webs when the block is viewed from the bottom. In the machining process, we gave priority to a greater hone relief (about 1”) to ensure a complete true hone. This uncovered the web material right at the stud hole (which we want deep for maximum stud engagement) causing the drill for the stud to “push” a small domed area in the web. The solution is to back-out the hone relief by .100” and the area will not show. This machining change is planned for the next run of blocks.

An explanation of O-ring installation and some cosmetic questions were answered to Thom’s satisfaction. He then apparently posted to the forum that it “looks like a very nice block”-but he still wants a new one.

Now we’d just like to state that in the interest of all forum members, the best path is always to contact any manufacturer BEFORE posting a negative perception about a product. We ask this, not only for us but all of our quality competitors.

It’s always possible that any manufacturer can have a part slip past QC but that is not in any way representative of the entire group of that product, or the entire product line. Before shooting anyone with a “crap” gun out loud on a forum, an understanding of the part should be explored. Sure, if a guy got crap that he paid for, he’s certainly entitled to tell people because forums are for sharing information for the benefit of all members and sponsors. But defective parts or lousy service should be presented after they are explored.

Our offer to Thom will stand if we can just get logistics and terms arranged.
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MerlinPro,

Someone posted earlier that a sleeve dropped in one of your blocks built for boost. Then the post disappeared. Was that just internet rumor?

 

dunno about that but i am pretty sure iw ould love to get a 454 LSX in my formula..

 

Well, anyone would like a 454 in their car, period. But if it drops a sleeve its a complete piece of garbage.

 

Until dropped sleeves are a thing of the past, for 100%, you'd either be a dumbass to buy one or a rich dumbass to keep preplacing them who likes to throw away money.

And if Merlin says dropped sleeved just do NOT happen, they should warranty every block, 100%, against them from happening. And include R&R expenses for every buyer.

If they won't.....then they know darn well a certain % of their customers will get FUCKED!!!!!!

 

I think the Warhawk has a dry sleeve flanged at the top unlike some of the older oem sleeved blocks that had a ledge at the bottom that would allow the sleeve to settle and sometimes later "drop" a little. The sleeves really sholdn't be able to drop on a warhawk at all.

 

PLEASE HELP I LOST THE PAPERS THAT COME WITH THE LSX BLOCK I DONT WANT TO F THIS UP. DOES ANYONE STILL HAVE THEM. SAVE ME FROM THANKS

 

We have no knowledge that occured. No one has contacted us here to report/question/bitch about that. I'm sure someone would have looked for restitution from us before posting on a forum.
An engine-builder customer of ours ordered and bought 2 Warhawk sleeves in January for for an engine his company built which was heavily sprayed. The damage was cracked, not 'dropped' sleeves. It's in no way a block or sleeve failure. It's an issue of the nitrous set-up and tune which we have no control over. The builder made no claim of fault of our parts.

"I think the Warhawk has a dry sleeve flanged at the top unlike some of the older OEM sleeved blocks that had a ledge at the bottom that would allow the sleeve to settle and sometimes later "drop" a little. The sleeves really sholdn't be able to drop on a warhawk at all."
What Eric says here is correct. You can not "drop" a sleeve in our block. It's not a liner as the OE is, it's a sleeve, with a step at the top of the sleeve and a register at the top of the block to retain it.

You can once again, see it clearly here:
http://www.theengineshop.com/prods_p...2_keyfetrs.htm

 

Now that is awesome, what took the industry so long to do this. I asked about this 6 years ago.

Merlin,
Is the WarHawk a block that will except 100% of the factory accessories, sensors, wires, plugs, etc.........? Just pull the old factory block out and drop the WarHawk in and bolt everything back together?

If not, what has to be fabbed or what special parts are needed?

 

No they're not, I called them all.

Who do you know that has one right now???????????????????? I will call and buy it today.

 

LSX blocks are being shipped as we speak. I know some went out last in the past wek or so and more are being shipped now.

I assume that dealers are filling back orders first. Let me ask where you might find one.

Robin

Edit

Oops, just found out some blocks have shipped, but the big numbers will ship in a week or so.

 

They require there own covers and cam plates, which are an extra cost on top of the $4600 block!!!

I was all set on buying a 427 Warhawk, until I was given a quote from a couple vendors and saw the price of all the Warhawk specific stuff. To take full advantage of the Warhawk block (6-bolt heads) the extra parts end up being about another $800 so you will have OVER $5000 in just the block.

I really wanted the Warhawk block, but I only budgeted around $4k MAX for a block and covers.

Other than that I think the blocks accept all the other components.

 

Merlin, here's the thread on the dropped liner:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=warhawk