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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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i want block lsx 9.700deck bore size 4.185 and strock 4.400 crankshaft prep with Honda-sized (alternatively Olds Quad 4) 1.88-inch rod journals
to reduce friction.
and 1400 Series GRP connecting rods in a length of 6.00 inches Diamond pistons were CNC-milled for proper deck height and valve notch depth, yield a static compression ratio of 14.5:1, and are serviced by 0.062-inch gas ports that scheme against Diamond Hellfire rings and intake custom super victor jr ls7 with flange 4500 and carb holley 1250cfm and msd triger Jesel supplied the 0.941-inch
diameter tie-bar roller lifters
and the 1.85:1 shaft-mounted
rocker system and Double-taper Trend pushrods
feature a 0.065-inch wall
and an overall length of
9.50 inches and dry sump and heads c5r full ported and valve 2.220 1.65 and i want Short versus normal damper hubs: the longer of the two is used with the Jesel belt drive to eliminate the oil pump. The installation of a Jesel belt drive necessitates an external oil pump. The longer hub makes up the difference when using the Jesel belt drive. Lunati solid roller cam, for instance, was ground with 284/304 degrees of duration at 0.050-inch and with a 110 degree lobe separation. Lift on both valves is a stupefying 0.980-inch. To contain this jiggery, Stealy specified Jesel 0.941-inch diameter tie-bar lifters and its 1.85:1 shaft rocker arms
can you help me please how mush total price
thanks mohammed from kuwait
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LSX-R...spagenameZWDVW

I wouldl get in touch with these guys. This motor is pretty close. Price shoudl be similiar.

I know of another one that you may could get your hands on also.
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That type of engine will run $40-$50,000 but may have some parts availabilty problems with the block and heads. Please contact me if you have any questions.
kuperf@aol.com

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Originally Posted by DASHTI
i want block lsx 9.700deck bore size 4.185 and strock 4.400 crankshaft prep with Honda-sized (alternatively Olds Quad 4) 1.88-inch rod journals
to reduce friction.
and 1400 Series GRP connecting rods in a length of 6.00 inches Diamond pistons were CNC-milled for proper deck height and valve notch depth, yield a static compression ratio of 14.5:1, and are serviced by 0.062-inch gas ports that scheme against Diamond Hellfire rings and intake custom super victor jr ls7 with flange 4500 and carb holley 1250cfm and msd triger Jesel supplied the 0.941-inch
diameter tie-bar roller lifters
and the 1.85:1 shaft-mounted
rocker system and Double-taper Trend pushrods
feature a 0.065-inch wall
and an overall length of
9.50 inches and dry sump and heads c5r full ported and valve 2.220 1.65 and i want Short versus normal damper hubs: the longer of the two is used with the Jesel belt drive to eliminate the oil pump. The installation of a Jesel belt drive necessitates an external oil pump. The longer hub makes up the difference when using the Jesel belt drive. Lunati solid roller cam, for instance, was ground with 284/304 degrees of duration at 0.050-inch and with a 110 degree lobe separation. Lift on both valves is a stupefying 0.980-inch. To contain this jiggery, Stealy specified Jesel 0.941-inch diameter tie-bar lifters and its 1.85:1 shaft rocker arms
can you help me please how mush total price
thanks mohammed from kuwait
If you want to build an LSX engine that big and expensive, Wheel to Wheel (427 that posted above) would be the best choice to build the motor.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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I was un aware that gmpp released a block with that deck height yet, unless with the use of an ERL spacer or something similar?
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 427
That type of engine will run $40-$50,000 but may have some parts availabilty problems with the block and heads. Please contact me if you have any questions.
kuperf@aol.com

Kurt
Kurt I was just wondering, if a customer wanted to do all that, would it make sense to just build a big block? I know that for racing engines a bigger bore is really advantageous. The LSx engines can only go so big due to bore spacing and whatnot.

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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More than likely this engine would be for class racing by the requested parts. A big block could be very powerful also, but I do like the LS series of engines!

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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$40-50,000 should buy a lot more than what a LSX will put out. That is crazy money for big power small block.

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaCain383
$40-50,000 should buy a lot more than what a LSX will put out. That is crazy money for big power small block.

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No doubt. If there are no rules for what this guy wants to use it for, get a BBC built for way less money and way MORE reliability, and mop the floor with ANY LSx engine that could possibly be built.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaCain383
$40-50,000 should buy a lot more than what a LSX will put out. That is crazy money for big power small block.

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i agree with what kurt said-but it comes down to what customers want's

i do reckon it years to come a ls engine will be up their with the max effort engines of sbc and some bbc-even though the ls engine has been around for just over ten years-their is still more to come just like all the research and trial and error thats been done on sbc and bbc over the last 20-25 year's


would it also be fair to say that a ls engine is a bit more expensive because of the following the sbc and bbc has??

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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i agree with what kurt said-but it comes down to what customers want's

i do reckon it years to come a ls engine will be up their with the max effort engines of sbc and some bbc-even though the ls engine has been around for just over ten years-their is still more to come just like all the research and trial and error thats been done on sbc and bbc over the last 20-25 year's


would it also be fair to say that a ls engine is a bit more expensive because of the following the sbc and bbc has??

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But still, the LSx engine will never, ever be able to deliver anywhere near the power, longevity and reliability of a BBC and with less money. When someone finally builds a 500ci LSx whatever and they lay down say 750 RWHP, it'll be at a cost of proabably $30,000 and the engine will running on the ragged edge with pure race gas. A BBC can be built to *** rape it for half that and last ALLOT longer and actually be drivable on the street with 91 octane pump gas.

But I think this subject has been talked about to death on every forum out there.

like the avatar.

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Call Erik Koenig of HKE Enterprises to build you a tall deck 484 CI LSX motor. This guy is a MASTER LS engine builder and his prices are very competitive.

If time was on my side (it was not) going with a 650RWHP tall deck 484 CI LSX motor was the way I originally wanted to go 1.5 years ago, but couldn't wait that long, and knew I could make 700+ rwhp with the set-up in my sig. for less $.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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But still, the LSx engine will never, ever be able to deliver anywhere near the power, longevity and reliability of a BBC and with less money. When someone finally builds a 500ci LSx whatever and they lay down say 750 RWHP, it'll be at a cost of proabably $30,000 and the engine will running on the ragged edge with pure race gas. A BBC can be built to *** rape it for half that and last ALLOT longer and actually be drivable on the street with 91 octane pump gas.

But I think this subject has been talked about to death on every forum out there.

like the avatar.


maybe but things only get better in time and more research

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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:59 AM
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Nickens Bros. is selling an engine or two like this done for someone that couldn't pay their bill. I think it was on racingjunk.com but with an engine like this YOU need to know what you are doing as well or it won't last long!

Originally Posted by DASHTI
i want block lsx 9.700deck bore size 4.185 and strock 4.400 crankshaft prep with Honda-sized (alternatively Olds Quad 4) 1.88-inch rod journals
to reduce friction.
and 1400 Series GRP connecting rods in a length of 6.00 inches Diamond pistons were CNC-milled for proper deck height and valve notch depth, yield a static compression ratio of 14.5:1, and are serviced by 0.062-inch gas ports that scheme against Diamond Hellfire rings and intake custom super victor jr ls7 with flange 4500 and carb holley 1250cfm and msd triger Jesel supplied the 0.941-inch
diameter tie-bar roller lifters
and the 1.85:1 shaft-mounted
rocker system and Double-taper Trend pushrods
feature a 0.065-inch wall
and an overall length of
9.50 inches and dry sump and heads c5r full ported and valve 2.220 1.65 and i want Short versus normal damper hubs: the longer of the two is used with the Jesel belt drive to eliminate the oil pump. The installation of a Jesel belt drive necessitates an external oil pump. The longer hub makes up the difference when using the Jesel belt drive. Lunati solid roller cam, for instance, was ground with 284/304 degrees of duration at 0.050-inch and with a 110 degree lobe separation. Lift on both valves is a stupefying 0.980-inch. To contain this jiggery, Stealy specified Jesel 0.941-inch diameter tie-bar lifters and its 1.85:1 shaft rocker arms
can you help me please how mush total price
thanks mohammed from kuwait
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Thanks for the nice words as well Boss! This is an engine right up my alley but I am a few months out right now and what he wants is not going to be easy to do. Wheel to Wheel there is also good as the engines I have seen from them are all very nice with all the right stuff and put together right as well.

Building an all out NA race engine though is not everyone's cup of tea and the sheer amount of attention any true race engine needs has to be communicated to any potential buyer so they know what they are getting into or an appropriate engine can be designed for them with the maintenance they can handle.

.980 lift though is not low maintenance!!!
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Why not go with forced induction, maybe a TT build. You could make more horsepower, with a streetable camshaft, and a more durable motor for less $$$.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Being so close, I know the requester will be running in NA street class. Factory size block is mandatory for that class. So, if the car came from the factory with small block, he cannot put a big block and run the class.

There is war going on in the area between LS7 guys and some old Camaro, factory big block, that is running big cubes. Heared it's 600+ci, bored and stroked. It came from factory with big block. This is why he was able to run the class.

Domination is the intent of the requester. Money $$$ is not an issue with those guys. No wonder they want the highest NA HP small block.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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This might be a candidate for a big compression ERL 500 CI. 10.200 deck height. 9.700 isn't going to support a 4.5 stroke by the time you figure out rod lengths and compression heights.
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Originally Posted by racer7088
Thanks for the nice words as well Boss! This is an engine right up my alley but I am a few months out right now and what he wants is not going to be easy to do. Wheel to Wheel there is also good as the engines I have seen from them are all very nice with all the right stuff and put together right as well.

Building an all out NA race engine though is not everyone's cup of tea and the sheer amount of attention any true race engine needs has to be communicated to any potential buyer so they know what they are getting into or an appropriate engine can be designed for them with the maintenance they can handle.

.980 lift though is not low maintenance!!!

What he said and your welcome ERIK, and I should be getting my bad boy forged LS6 347 blower motor you recently built this early winter dyno tuned on Monday (April 7). Stay tuned my friend and hope all is well!
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