Is it possible to build a 400 ci motor on 5g's?
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I found it locally from a friend of a friend. I guess the guy I bought it from was getting divorced. The invoice from LME was substantially higher than what I paid!
My point is that deals can be found if you look hard enough. Now here's the bad part of doing something like this. You will probably spend close to 3k-4k, if not more, for supporting mods (fuel system, clutch, driveline, suspension, rearend, etc)
It sucks but I would rather have fun and spend my money on my car rather than blowing my money on something stupid.....like women.
My point is that deals can be found if you look hard enough. Now here's the bad part of doing something like this. You will probably spend close to 3k-4k, if not more, for supporting mods (fuel system, clutch, driveline, suspension, rearend, etc)
It sucks but I would rather have fun and spend my money on my car rather than blowing my money on something stupid.....like women.
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Then you've spent $5000 to max out a stock bottom end and will run into pushing water, lifting heads, and ring seating issues. A stroker motor is about $850 more dollars (crank cost) to build than a "BUILT" stock cube motor. Pistons, rods, gaskets, cam, heads, and machine work are all the same price no matter what size you go with. Think about it.
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1) Id be doing it to a 75k mile engine
2) Right now the eninge doesnt really have the right supporting mods for that either
3) N/A is way more badass
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Yeah, they're a "non sponsor" so I'll pm you their name. I got a SCAT 4.00 stroke ls1 crank that came balanced to my bobweight(mallory added), and key wayed for a good balancer (if you wanted to run a blower). This is my first SCAT crank, I have always bought Eagle cranks. I will say this...the SCAT crank is a hell of a lot better quality in my opinion.
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Yeah, they're a "non sponsor" so I'll pm you their name. I got a SCAT 4.00 stroke ls1 crank that came balanced to my bobweight(mallory added), and key wayed for a good balancer (if you wanted to run a blower). This is my first SCAT crank, I have always bought Eagle cranks. I will say this...the SCAT crank is a hell of a lot better quality in my opinion.
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If your going to do the work yourself and shop smartly you can build anything cheaper than you can buy it. But do you know what your doing is the question. IF you have to replace that short block in 2 years your not saving any money at all.
Then the heads come into play. Again if you can port your own you can save money.
Cranks are a dime a dozen on ebay, it doesnt take anyone special to sell on there, or even anyone who knows what they are doing.
With a proven vendor on here you are 100% ahead of the game.
Then the heads come into play. Again if you can port your own you can save money.
Cranks are a dime a dozen on ebay, it doesnt take anyone special to sell on there, or even anyone who knows what they are doing.
With a proven vendor on here you are 100% ahead of the game.
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Yeah that's what I was going to do but when I got down to it setting everything up I got worried. I didn't what to have to worry about rebuilding the motor for a long while. I wanted something that could be beat on at the track and DD if I wanted it too. My car is not a DD and is not an all out track car either. I go to the track about 8-10 times a year and drive it on nice days and weekends.
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I consider myself to be competant with a wrench but I've never actually built an engine.
Maybe a 346 re-build would have been a good place to learn but I wasnt about to drop a few k on parts only to ruin them with my inexperience building engines putting them together. Had I the money to waste on learning lessons maybe I would have gone for it. Would rather drop the coin on tuition at SAM and learn the right way though.
Hey theres someone looking for an ls1 in the parts wanted section if you still have that in your sig
Maybe a 346 re-build would have been a good place to learn but I wasnt about to drop a few k on parts only to ruin them with my inexperience building engines putting them together. Had I the money to waste on learning lessons maybe I would have gone for it. Would rather drop the coin on tuition at SAM and learn the right way though.
Hey theres someone looking for an ls1 in the parts wanted section if you still have that in your sig
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I built mine and it's running great using a top end that nobody thought would work. My thing was that with an engine builder such as a sponsor, you don't know what kind of care went into building your motor. If you build it yourself, you know it's right, and you are to blame if something goes wrong.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
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I built mine and it's running great using a top end that nobody thought would work. My thing was that with an engine builder such as a sponsor, you don't know what kind of care went into building your motor. If you build it yourself, you know it's right, and you are to blame if something goes wrong.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
On the other side of the coin ive never built an engine outside of a 2 stroke snowmobile engine.
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I built mine and it's running great using a top end that nobody thought would work. My thing was that with an engine builder such as a sponsor, you don't know what kind of care went into building your motor. If you build it yourself, you know it's right, and you are to blame if something goes wrong.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
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I built mine and it's running great using a top end that nobody thought would work. My thing was that with an engine builder such as a sponsor, you don't know what kind of care went into building your motor. If you build it yourself, you know it's right, and you are to blame if something goes wrong.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
Not to mention a buddy just bought a nice engine off a sponsor, and they didn't get the cam bearings in well. With just a few miles on the car during initial tuning, a cam bearing came out. And the builder didn't even pay for removal of the engine. Just fixing it and shipping. Pathetic.
Ive had more problems with **** ive bought from someone else than stuff ive put together. NOBODY will put as much focus, and attention to detail into YOUR motor than you will. Just cause one person can't do something doesn't mean everyone cant. Some of us restore cars and build engines for a living.
Besides....90% of "sponsors" dont "build" engines themselves... their engines are sub contracted out to local machine shops. This doesn't mean anything, because these machine shops are plenty capable of doing the work. It just shows you that someone that gets paid to assemble engines is assembling your engine. Therefore... its "work" to someone...some days you just dont want to go to work. Think about how many times you've showed up for work hung over or pissed off and screwed up something @ work. Thats the point I was trying to make, by everyone is capable of making mistakes.
just my .02 ..... everybody has there own opinions though. To each his own.
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2) Add rod bolts
3) Not really when you can make better power and times with FI, then still get great gas mileage. But I say spray it instead. NA is great, but fast is cool no matter how you get there. At the end of the day, ET talks and "NA vs. Power Adder" walks.