MPFD

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I have to agree. I've seen a stock blocked N/A 400 SBC run those kinda times on a foot brake with half as much money invested. I think it's a good start but that setup ought to be capable of much more.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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You can build a 400 SBC that competes with this for under $3500? He's got $3200 in the complete long-block, headers, MSD setup and all! That's cheap!

And I don't think the car gas a brake...at least not that I've heard or been told It does a something like 440 cubes now with the PRC L92 heads on her. I haven't heard what times they ran as of yet.

MPFD

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Thats not what he told me saturday..I saw the car run also, and it is on a brake. The figure I heard from the source was "it's a 30 over 6.0 with $4000 in the short block alone. If it really is 440 cube then it should be way faster. And yes the 400 ran low 10's and the guy has the whole package for sale for $3000. But the compression has been brought down quite abit cause there was plans to go with a D2 on it, before he decided to sell it in favor of building a Gen IV.

sidewayz28

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howd the 6.0 break?

Darracq

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Sure you might be able to buy a used 400 that will run good. but who knows how long it will live, if you build it new it will cost a ton more. or maybe you can piece a bunch of used stuff together from people that need money bad. but you still have to buy header and all that other stuff. I am more impressed by stock stuff than a 13.1 Afr headed roller cammed engine. I have had a few sbc and a afr headed 406 and it only ran those times on 175 shot, sure i need a better converter and a few things. but its still moving for a guy on a buget.

MPFD

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Tell me whats stock about that motor? Is it the LSX block, the Edelbrock victor junior intake, the Scat crank and rods, or the Manley pistons? I wouldn't even really call CNC ported L92's stock unless your figureing in that TSP gave him the CNC job.

quik406

Matt, your kidding right. Do you know this kid? Have you seen this car?

He told me rod, bolt, but after talking to him I would not be surprised if it was piston to valve issue.

Sounds to me like the 6.0l with stock L92's was sweet, but everything else has been a waste. CNC jokes, on LSX 440CID!!= NOT VERY FAST.

Sorry

Sales2@Texas-speed

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The stock motor being refered to was the 6.0L short-block. It was a core motor that was CHEAP and not built up. You're talking about the 440ci motor which is a completely different story.

The 30 over 6.0 COULD be referring to the old 6.0L, but not the 440 obviously. Maybe someone was BS'ing you? It happens at the track more often than not. It very well could have a brake, again I have not been told it did. And why would the guy sell his whole package for $3K if it's a better/cheaper combo than the Gen3 stuff?

I have not met Ryan personally or seen the car. The times speak for themselves as far as the gains go for the head swap!

I would be highly surprised if it was piston to valve issues that took out the 6.0L. The 233/239 cam with the heads milled VERY little just to ensure they were flat when they left here would have had plenty of space! It was a core short-block...is it that hard to believe a stock short-block let go running those times? It happens ALL THE TIME around here.

MPFD

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It happens on the internet alot too.

508Stroker

This thread got dumb fast.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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Agreed x2!

quik406

Ya when cnc l92 got involved

Malicious

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Actually this thread really only got dumb the last page and a half when a few people can't seem to grasp that the 10.56 run was a 6.0 motor with some parts thrown at it, not their new 440 LSX motor, and then sat there and argued incessantly about something they were too dense to read.

508Stroker

Shut up, I built my 400SBC for 400 dollars from the flea market. Dollar a cube and made 3 horse per cube. Go stick to your over priced motors and talk to me after you spin a muffler bearing in your flux capacitor!

MPFD

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NO, we understand that he build a respectable junkyard motor and then blew it up. He told us that when it went he sent a exhaust valve down the header. Now he has those same heads on his new motor (I bet). I would be willing to wager the the CNC ported heads were never on the LQ9. What we are trying to figure out is how the car didn't get any faster when he put this same combo in a 440 cube LSX block. The truth is I saw the LSX block, I saw the car, I saw the times it ran. I've actually been following this thread since day one. The only thing that is adding up here is the BS, and the guys that are buying into it.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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So you're calling BS...saying he never installed the PRC heads on the 6.0L? Do you have anything to back up your claims?

MPFD

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Did you send him a second set of heads? Cause he told us point blank how much of a mess the the LQ9 made when it blew. Do you believe that the heads would be re-usable after sending an exhaust valve down the header pipe? He told us the intake and headers were the only thing salvageable left.

TJ

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oh man. this went from a turd to a pile of **** real quick.
i cant make certain the guys claims are for certain, but if got rid of the 400, there was a reason, his lsx setup is better!
i gave up on a dart headed 383 for my stock longblock 6.0. a lot has changed since then, but a direct comparison was 7.56@91 vs a 7.34@94 6.0 has less cubes, is faster, and drives much more smooth.

id like to hear the rest of the story, but from here on out dont know what to believe......???

quik406

The best thing about this is the proof cnc l92's are a joke. Runs same times, with 440 LSX???? Why?? Please someone explain. I saw the car with my own eyes. Sorry to burst all your L92 pipe dreams, and defame TS junk ports!

Chris

MPFD

iTrader: (5)

You guys can think what ever you want, But quik406 and I are the only two people on here that have seen the car in person and talked with him. The guy thought we were a couple of rubes that were gonna think he was a motor god for having an Gen IV in an Oldsmobile. We new who he was right off and when he told us his story it sure didn't sync up very well with the story we had gotten from LS1tech.