what would your set up be for 600rwhp n/a
06-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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I agree that was a pretty bold statement considering some of the sponsers/advertisers on this site. Almost a shoulder chip statement that lends itself to a loss in credibility, albeit not to the builder. I'm sure Barry appreciates your "enthsiasm" but it might look better if painted with a smaller brush.
With that being said, since I'm interested in Barry's "experience" I got his # from 2000 SS with a dose of "heads up". Interesting, BTW, needadvice do you live in Pompano Beach, FLA?
With that being said, since I'm interested in Barry's "experience" I got his # from 2000 SS with a dose of "heads up". Interesting, BTW, needadvice do you live in Pompano Beach, FLA?
06-14-2008, 09:39 AM
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This isnt magic...LOL
I'll back out of this thread, I can see where its going.
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. For the OP, see my sig. I stuck with the 440 because I didn't want the weight of an iron block if I didn't need it.
06-14-2008, 06:26 PM
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ok thats what I thought and wasnt sure... I think most would stick with the iron just to have the extra reliability and strength compared to the aluminum.
06-14-2008, 10:49 PM
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The weight difference doesn't seem that much, buy it does matter and you can feel it. However nothin' beats iron for reliabilty. More cubes, more FI, more juice, more power. Tuf n nuf.
06-15-2008, 12:01 AM
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well im going from a Iron LT1 to a Aluminum ls motor so we will see if i can notice the difference, probably not but this is all good info for future reference.
06-15-2008, 10:57 AM
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I think it's between 80 and 100lbs also. I've seen some aluminum block motors making incredible power without a problem. I imagine iron is stronger, but last time I had a motor failure the inside of the cylinder was chipped. With al. I could have resleeved, but since it was iron I got to buy a new block. The weight is at the front of the veh. which isn't good. More power will overcome the weight straight line, but it's always there when you corner or brake.
06-15-2008, 03:23 PM
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Look at MPH IV; check out the sig, he's one of those "everyone's makin' it" guys, not bad.
just got the set of DMHs installed with the new headers myself- so are they loud? lol can't wait to hear em- and then really use em.
just got the set of DMHs installed with the new headers myself- so are they loud? lol can't wait to hear em- and then really use em.
06-15-2008, 09:31 PM
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needadive, is exactly what you need.
You say 20 people on here you know have an engine built by Barry, where is the threads why not the good words? Do a quick search for Erik Koenig at HKE or Brian at LME, and let the people speak for themselves, You may think Barry is the best, But he may be the only bloke around your neck of the woods, You cannot compare what you do not know. Get some sheets from Barrys builds and post them up. even better get people with his engines to post up if you know 20 of them on here alone!
Im with blanco on this one, not only judging from this site but Erik in my eyes is the best, Just like Brian would be the best for the next person, TSP for the next, and SDParts for the next, all very different builders but are sworn by because people have not tried anyone else.
Eriks results speak for him self, I can easily find them online and an array of posts from Erik on a large variety of forums. Oh did I mention he has 25 Years experience, Has built over 1000 LS engines and used to be the SAM Head machinist? But Don't listen to me LOOK IT UP FOR YOUR SELF.
Again this is my opinion which I keep to my self, and will hold it until the day im changed.
Scott
You say 20 people on here you know have an engine built by Barry, where is the threads why not the good words? Do a quick search for Erik Koenig at HKE or Brian at LME, and let the people speak for themselves, You may think Barry is the best, But he may be the only bloke around your neck of the woods, You cannot compare what you do not know. Get some sheets from Barrys builds and post them up. even better get people with his engines to post up if you know 20 of them on here alone!
Im with blanco on this one, not only judging from this site but Erik in my eyes is the best, Just like Brian would be the best for the next person, TSP for the next, and SDParts for the next, all very different builders but are sworn by because people have not tried anyone else.
Eriks results speak for him self, I can easily find them online and an array of posts from Erik on a large variety of forums. Oh did I mention he has 25 Years experience, Has built over 1000 LS engines and used to be the SAM Head machinist? But Don't listen to me LOOK IT UP FOR YOUR SELF.
Again this is my opinion which I keep to my self, and will hold it until the day im changed.
Scott
Thats right, Barry. Air-Flo. There is noone better. 35 years building race engines and his shop is in the same location it was when he started. That says something right there. He has more experience than any builder or sponsor on this site will ever have individually. I personally see these cars at the local car shows, they do not lie. Problem is, 99% of people here think the sponsors are the end all of LSx engines and if they can't make the power, noone can. Wrong. People who don't have to advertise are the bad asses. His shop is always full of about a dozen C6 Z06 heads from people all over the country wanting his porting work, a few C5R builds and about a dozen big cube LSx builds going on, including 6-7 second single turbo engine builds.
Barry makes ALOT more power then anyone here with MORE streetable set-ups. How, don't ask me I don't build engines. He's doing my 454ci LSX iron block and it WILL make 650 RWHP through a 4L80E on pump gas. His C6 Z06's are running around all over and most are over 600 RWHP and very tame. You would NEVER know it standing next to one that it has 600+ RWHP N/A.
There's actually about 20 people from this site who have used him for complete engine builds and head porting work over the past 6 months that I personally know of. None are unhappy.
He's best known around this area, over a couple decades anyway, where noone has ever heard of one of his engines having a failure of any kind.
Barry makes ALOT more power then anyone here with MORE streetable set-ups. How, don't ask me I don't build engines. He's doing my 454ci LSX iron block and it WILL make 650 RWHP through a 4L80E on pump gas. His C6 Z06's are running around all over and most are over 600 RWHP and very tame. You would NEVER know it standing next to one that it has 600+ RWHP N/A.
There's actually about 20 people from this site who have used him for complete engine builds and head porting work over the past 6 months that I personally know of. None are unhappy.
He's best known around this area, over a couple decades anyway, where noone has ever heard of one of his engines having a failure of any kind.
06-16-2008, 09:28 PM
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Do a quick search for Erik Koenig at HKE
not only judging from this site but Erik in my eyes is the best, Just like Brian would be the best
One of hundreds of examples: My friend Les, "Hoserack" sffba.net. He had an iron 422ci built by Barry in 2004, 230 sized cam, ported LS6 heads and intake, 11.0 cr. Cam was Barry's choice don't know the specs. It idles very close to stock. Les has been spraying a 300 shot for the past 4 years. STREET CAR only. Has about 60,000 miles now. Made 535 RWHP back in 2004, NOONE else came close to that N/A power back then with a mild cammed 422ci. Made 880 RWHP on spray. The engine was just recently checked out and ITS STILL PERFECT. He's selling it because he just bought a C6 Z06, one that will be laying down OVER 600 RWHP with a low 240 ish cam, after Barry gets his hands on the heads, intake and recommends a cam.
Lotsa good builders out there, YES, but very few build a perfectly matched engine. Most big power engines I've seen are radically cammed and high cr.
Whatever, call who you want for a build. To each his own. Oh yeah, what shops give 12mon/12,000 mile full warranties on N/A engines....only those builders who know they can
06-16-2008, 10:05 PM
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06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
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624 RWHP with this build as shown in the August 2008 Car Craft Magazine. Oh, it also got 21 MPG at 80MPH average, windows up and A/C running coming home from the 2008 Power Tour last weekend.
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