Any chance on a GMMG exhaust GP again?
#22
If it was up to the members, these poor guys would be running a GP 360 days/year
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
Last edited by 1QUIKWS6; 11-30-2005 at 06:38 AM.
#23
Originally Posted by 1QUIKWS6
If it was up to the members, these poor guys would be running a GP 360 days/year
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
#24
I would also be very interested in a GP in the spring. Spring is actually better for me since i probably wont have the money to purchase it until then anyway.
I've never done a GP so how does it work, will they make a topic about it when its happening or will i get a PM or email because i posted in this topic???? I just wanna have some advance notice as to when this is going on....
I've never done a GP so how does it work, will they make a topic about it when its happening or will i get a PM or email because i posted in this topic???? I just wanna have some advance notice as to when this is going on....
#25
Basically, you just have to keep checking the Sponsor Specials & Group Purchases forum for a post by GMMG stating that a GP Buy is underway. There is no automatic notification feature for this. More than likely, they will not post in this thread when they do have the next GP Buy as this is the forum for GP Requests - they will start a new post in the forum I mentioned...
#26
Originally Posted by 1QUIKWS6
If it was up to the members, these poor guys would be running a GP 360 days/year
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
Basic idea behind a GP Buy is to provide the consumer with a better price than usual. For the vendor this usually means their profit margin is VERY small, but they gain some in volume of sales, and they get their product out on the market to more people, so that by word of mouth they gain more sales due to previous customers recommending the product due to it's performance/quality. GMMG DEFINITELY does not need any further testiments as to the quality of their exhaust - it's already widely known! I'm sure that mass sales of their exhaust systems put's them thru hell since this is not a mass produced part that is just setting on their shelves. Bottom line is, in the case of GMMG, they're doing us a favor by running the multiple GP Buys/year that they already do.
Hell, I've seen posts requesting a GP two days after one just ended!? If you don't have the $$ when they're running - you can't expect them to start up another just because you now have the $$ - try saving your money until the next GP comes up - heck, you might even make some money on the interest it gains while in the bank. Seems no one wants to save $$ any more - they get some and want to spend it all immediately.
They already ran at least (2) this year - you have to strike when the iron is hot - guess if ya missed those you're gonna have to wait.
It's well worth the wait though
#27
And then there is a little thing called 'Engineering Cost' this entails all the expenses/time related to designing the exhaust to fit CORRECTLY before it is even put on the market. This and the company overhead that you speak of, is built into the pricing of ANY aftermarket part.
Yes, the materials at their cost is definitely cheaper than what they sell the system for, but obviously they are in business to make $$, not lose it. If you can buy the materials, cut & mandrel bend the pipes correctly to make the system fit perfectly, and weld together yourself - then congratulations - go make it yourself for cheaper. I personally have way more $$ than time and would rather buy the system for their cost than try to 're-invent the wheel'.
Fact of the matter is, the system fits perfectly with good clearance from all under car obstacles, the tailpipes exit perfectly centered, and at the same height thru the rear valance cutouts and extend at just the right amount (not too far out, not too far in). You're gonna have to pay for that quality.
And then there's the sound. I had both Borla and Corsa on my T/A - both were just as expensive and sounded like ***. I've heard the Loudmouth - just sounds like a lot of noise - might as well just run open headers, Magnaflow is closest in sound, but not as good IMO.
So if you use a Harley for example, in that case some of the mystic of owning HD is the 'signature sound' (which is actually patented by the way and quite a bit of engineering went into creating that sound). There are plenty of other bikes out there that are faster and cheaper as well, but people still buy Harley's, pay high prices, wait on lists.
Basically what I am saying is that I have no problem paying for a high quality/engineered part of any type. I don't know how much (if any) of a performance gain was seen by adding their exhaust (and I don't give a ****) - the ease of install and the EXCELLENT sound makes it well worth the price - and I'm quite sure that there were no performance losses seen after install. I get nothing but compliments as to the sound of my T/A with this exhaust.
Yes, the materials at their cost is definitely cheaper than what they sell the system for, but obviously they are in business to make $$, not lose it. If you can buy the materials, cut & mandrel bend the pipes correctly to make the system fit perfectly, and weld together yourself - then congratulations - go make it yourself for cheaper. I personally have way more $$ than time and would rather buy the system for their cost than try to 're-invent the wheel'.
Fact of the matter is, the system fits perfectly with good clearance from all under car obstacles, the tailpipes exit perfectly centered, and at the same height thru the rear valance cutouts and extend at just the right amount (not too far out, not too far in). You're gonna have to pay for that quality.
And then there's the sound. I had both Borla and Corsa on my T/A - both were just as expensive and sounded like ***. I've heard the Loudmouth - just sounds like a lot of noise - might as well just run open headers, Magnaflow is closest in sound, but not as good IMO.
So if you use a Harley for example, in that case some of the mystic of owning HD is the 'signature sound' (which is actually patented by the way and quite a bit of engineering went into creating that sound). There are plenty of other bikes out there that are faster and cheaper as well, but people still buy Harley's, pay high prices, wait on lists.
Basically what I am saying is that I have no problem paying for a high quality/engineered part of any type. I don't know how much (if any) of a performance gain was seen by adding their exhaust (and I don't give a ****) - the ease of install and the EXCELLENT sound makes it well worth the price - and I'm quite sure that there were no performance losses seen after install. I get nothing but compliments as to the sound of my T/A with this exhaust.
#28
Originally Posted by JustAnIlluzion
the parts for thier exhaust for that catback to get wholesale with a vendor license or to make inhouse with a mandrel bender prolly cost less then 100 dollars for everything (lil more if stainless). throw in some welds and clamps and sell for 6x more? great product and not knocking it, just open your eyes a little. yes they have to operate a company/shop employees tools etc.
Hahaha....FWIW, stainless is VERY high right now... Has been for quite some time... Throw in GM clamps, TIPS, packaging, SHIPPING(yes shipping is included in our pricing)shipping can be as high as 113 bucks within the US depending on where its going. This is due to the size/weight of the box. UPS considers it oversized packaging. Engineering/tooling, etc etc etc... You should get the picture by now that its a lil more than a 100 bucks to get a system out the door....... For 700 shipped I think its well worth the price and cheaper than some of the other high end systems out there
#29
how much advance do we typically get on a GP? I mean im going on vacation in Feb. and what not and if i dont have a chance to check the site for a week or so i wouldnt want to miss out. Also, when there is another GP, does the topic become a sticky or is it just like a regular topic??
Sorry for the questions but i'd hate to miss out on a GMMG GP!!
Sorry for the questions but i'd hate to miss out on a GMMG GP!!
#31
Originally Posted by Cammin BeaSSt
shipping can be as high as 113 bucks within the US depending on where its going. This is due to the size/weight of the box. UPS considers it oversized packaging.
#36
Just a little feedback, I don't know if anyone agrees, but if another GP comes along maybe in the spring, what I'd like to see is some sort of "normal price but free tip upgrade" special. I agree with both JustAnIlluzion and 1QuickWS6 on the fact that a) there's not a whole lot to them and you're probably paying for the name, but b) I will also pay for quality fit and engineering. Steel isn't free, gotta ship them, gotta engineer them...but it's still a whole lot more than competing setups and we'll line up to pay it because of the fit and sound quality. Nonetheless, a big chunk of what's kept me from getting one, it's a lot of (worthwhile) money to save, but then it's a huge kick in the nuts that it's another $150 for the nice tips.
#37
Yeah, that extra hit for the upgraded tips is a little discouraging - but I'm not sorry I got them - I've seen the regular tips - the upgraded versions are MUCH nicer.
You can find the tips alone for sale here on the forums from time to time - problem is, everyone knows that you can't buy the tips seperately from GMMG without first buying the catback - so they normally don't discount the price at all
BTW, since we're in the 'winter wonderland' here again in PA & the T/A is asleep in the garage - I've REALLY missed driving and hearing the car. Started her up yesterday just to listen Needless to say - got a little chub
-Jay-
You can find the tips alone for sale here on the forums from time to time - problem is, everyone knows that you can't buy the tips seperately from GMMG without first buying the catback - so they normally don't discount the price at all
BTW, since we're in the 'winter wonderland' here again in PA & the T/A is asleep in the garage - I've REALLY missed driving and hearing the car. Started her up yesterday just to listen Needless to say - got a little chub
-Jay-
#38
I will be watching for this GP!! I have heard the GMMG on a LS1 in person and a LT1 on video and it sounded awesome. I have talked to a LT1 owner that dynoed his car with a cutout (gained 10RWHP with the cutout open) and then with the GMMG and lost only 1 RWHP (going through the complete GMMG catback vs. the cutout). That's impressive to me, shows that this exhaust flows very well.
I will be among the first in line when this happens.... I am soooooo tired of my flowmaster!!
I will be among the first in line when this happens.... I am soooooo tired of my flowmaster!!
#40
How often do these GP's usually last... Like say if i check this section every week or so i shoudlnt miss it??
Or is it like 100% that the next GP will be sometime in the beginning of spring?? (meaning i dont really have to start checking until late feb. early march..)
Or is it like 100% that the next GP will be sometime in the beginning of spring?? (meaning i dont really have to start checking until late feb. early march..)