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Old 02-26-2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Z
It seems that a lot of people are being a lot more defensive than they need to be here. barnat, does have somewhat of a valid point. He didn' t read the sticky, and that was negligent on his part. He was banned before he even knew what he was banned for. I realize all of the mods are pretty busy keeping everyone straight, to make LS1 Tech and it' s sister sites a place that people enjoy, and want to return to. I don' t however, think it would take very long to simply copy and paste the violated rule and send it via e-mail to person being banned. There was a misunderstanding where I was banned a while back, due to a troll using a similar IP address. I was fortunate enough to have a moderator reply and correct the situation in a timely manner. At first I thought I violated one of the rules, and had no clue what I even did. I sending a small e-mail to anyone who violates a rule and gets a temp ban would be a small step, toward keeping members from making the same mistake twice. That' s my two pennies on this matter!
That's the whole point. He knew that he was breaking a rule because he said so in his for sale post. He admittedly avoided our policy. If the person did not know that he was breaking a rule, it would be very unlikely that we would ban him prior to a warning. If the rules can be followed from this point on, we welcome him back.
Old 02-26-2007 | 12:28 PM
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That's the whole point. He knew that he was breaking a rule because he said so in his for sale post. He admittedly avoided our policy.
That explains a lot then, I didn' t realize he posted that in his for sale post, as I didn' t see it. I assumed that he just overlooked the sticky, and unknowingly violated the rule. I appologize for the misunderstanding.
Old 02-26-2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zangel
Lets go through it again shall we? Member signs up on site. Member notices that he can't post in the for sale forum because he doesn't have enough posts (as the rules state). Member decides to post his things in another forum and even acknowledges that he is breaking the rules of the site. Member receives a 2 week vacation for breaking these rules and then proceeds to come back to the site in order to complain that we did not do our jobs right because we failed to notify him of his ban Then the member boasts about another site that does not have the same rules and speaks as if he believes our rules do not benefit others. I then correct this assumption. Care to point out which part you think I'm not getting, because it seems pretty clear to me?!
People forget things.

He never said he was mad that he got banned. Just mad that he was banned and that was all the communication he got from the mods/admin.

So your saying that you don't think there needs to be any other communication? I think their should.

When someone gets banned there should be a pop-up the next time they log-in saying they are banned and the reason why.

Is that so hard?
Old 02-26-2007 | 04:35 PM
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People forget things.

He never said he was mad that he got banned. Just mad that he was banned and that was all the communication he got from the mods/admin.

So your saying that you don't think there needs to be any other communication? I think their should.

When someone gets banned there should be a pop-up the next time they log-in saying they are banned and the reason why.

Is that so hard?
If a person knows that they are breaking a rule and continues to do so, then I do not believe that we should have to take the time to contact them to tell them once again that they ignored the policy.

As for the pop-up notification of a ban, that takes time and money. This site is not a full time job for anyone. The mods do not get paid for the time they contribute to cleaning up the site and I do not believe we should have to hold someone's hand or offer up an extra courtesy for someone that purposely circumvents the rules.

I believe the member received plenty of notification when he first ignored the rules outlined in the sticky and then ignored the warning that automatically appears when someone tries to post in the for sale section that is not authorized.

Maybe this will help you.... You are driving down a road that has a speed limit sign every mile that clearly states, "Speed Limit 40". Common sense would tell you that if you go over 40mph, you might get pulled over for breaking the law. You are listening to music and don't realize that you are now going 60. A cop pulls you over the first time and tells you to stop speeding and gives you a ticket. Then 5 miles down the same road (with the same speed limit) the same officer catches you going 100, does he really need to track you down in your jail cell to tell you why you were arrested?
Old 02-26-2007 | 04:51 PM
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Didn't I mention people forgetting rules?

How about this. Having your sig pic removed because you sized it to exact specifications with ps. But when you uploaded it to a host website (photobucket, imagethrust) it gains a pixel.

Yeah. One (1) pixel.

You log on and your sig pic is gone. No warning. No "hey I removed your sig pic" nothing. So I reload it thinking I deleted it somehow or didn't save it. Then it gets removed again and I get a smart *** pm about following sig rules or getting a ban.

That was over one pixel. Like that will slow down the site or cost them any more money.

Oh yeah time and money for a pop up? lol

You mean the same time and money it takes you to get 3400 posts? Nothing personal.

I don't know specifics about the op but how are you allowed to even view the "for sale" forum with less than 50 posts. If they can't sell them don't let them buy.

There just needs to be more communication from both sides. Seems every forum has these problems though.
Old 02-26-2007 | 05:17 PM
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I joined a couple sites just for the sole purpose of selling something I needed to sell. Needless to say, they deleted my post since I didn't have 50+ posts.
Old 02-26-2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Didn't I mention people forgetting rules?
It would be really hard for him to say that he forgot the rules when he posted in his for sale post, "I still cant post as of yet on the parts for sale" and thus why he posted it in the parts wanted. He admitted in his own post that he was breaking the rules. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

Originally Posted by Justin00SS
How about this. Having your sig pic removed because you sized it to exact specifications with ps. But when you uploaded it to a host website (photobucket, imagethrust) it gains a pixel.

Yeah. One (1) pixel.

You log on and your sig pic is gone. No warning. No "hey I removed your sig pic" nothing. So I reload it thinking I deleted it somehow or didn't save it. Then it gets removed again and I get a smart *** pm about following sig rules or getting a ban.

That was over one pixel. Like that will slow down the site or cost them any more money.
Well, I can't really explain what happened if this really did happen. Not only would it be extremely difficult to catch someone that went one pixel over on their sig, but as a mod, I have always left a note in the sig explaining the cause for removal. Warnings are usually given in cases where the member may not have known that they were breaking a rule. If you had a problem with the warning you received, you should speak with the admins.

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Oh yeah time and money for a pop up? lol
Not sure if you know anything about software development, coding and such... but the site doesn't just come with these options. It isn't as easy as pushing a button and making it work. The web admin would have to manually code this into the software to make it work. Since he does not work for free and this is not his full time job... yes, it would cost time and money.

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You mean the same time and money it takes you to get 3400 posts? Nothing personal.
I have been an active member on this site since the first day.... your point?

Originally Posted by Justin00SS
I don't know specifics about the op but how are you allowed to even view the "for sale" forum with less than 50 posts. If they can't sell them don't let them buy.
Stopping people from buying things from other members isn't going to make any difference. The seller receives the money before shipment. It is more likely that a person would sign up with false information, post a few high dollar items, take money and disappear. The 50 post/6 month rule gets rid of a high percentage of these people.

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There just needs to be more communication from both sides. Seems every forum has these problems though.
With a site that has this many active members, it is hard to have a one on one with every person who breaks a rule. That is one good reason why the rules are posted all over the site. If you have any reasonable ideas of how to improve the site, feel free to make suggestions in the User Support forum.
Old 02-26-2007 | 05:36 PM
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Old 02-26-2007 | 05:43 PM
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I see your points. Really.

Just offering a different side of an opinion.
Old 02-26-2007 | 05:43 PM
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I agree. I believe all points have been made and we can now move on. Please feel free to pm me if anyone has questions or feels the need to discuss this further.
Old 02-27-2007 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Didn't I mention people forgetting rules?

How about this. Having your sig pic removed because you sized it to exact specifications with ps. But when you uploaded it to a host website (photobucket, imagethrust) it gains a pixel.

Yeah. One (1) pixel.

You log on and your sig pic is gone. No warning. No "hey I removed your sig pic" nothing. So I reload it thinking I deleted it somehow or didn't save it. Then it gets removed again and I get a smart *** pm about following sig rules or getting a ban.

That was over one pixel. Like that will slow down the site or cost them any more money.

Oh yeah time and money for a pop up? lol

You mean the same time and money it takes you to get 3400 posts? Nothing personal.

I don't know specifics about the op but how are you allowed to even view the "for sale" forum with less than 50 posts. If they can't sell them don't let them buy.

There just needs to be more communication from both sides. Seems every forum has these problems though.
The sig rules are usually posted in your sig when your sig gets edited. And on top of that its a three strike policy. We edit it with warning (strike 1), you reinsert another pic too large and we edit again (strike 2). You again put in a sig pic too large (for whatever reason?) and we edit it.......yet again (strike 3). That gets you get a vacation. And most mods ideas of vacation is one week ban.

Now the complete BS part of having 1 pixel over the limit. Us mods don't sit here all day right clicking on every pick to try to catch a +1 pixel over image.

And two more things about this BS. I use www.Photobucket.com, for abut 3 years, and they NEVER EVER EVER EVER add 1 pixel to your image. If anything they take away pixels for very large file size pics.

Here is my second point, when in the 3 times you had the choice to look at your profile after you uploaded the image to test it out and see if Photobucket "added 1 pixel."

Like I mentioned earlier Photobucket.com never adds 1 pixel to any images ever. I help out a SHITLOAD of members by making a sig for them since they don't have Photoshop and/or Photobucket and I will even host their sigs for them. They usually end up getting their own host but I always offer. But still right now at this momment I have about 20-25 sigs that I have made and host for my friends.

I hope you understand the rules better and how we work.

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