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07-25-2008, 07:42 PM
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Welcome. I just got a WRB 03 WRX as a DD so my firebird can become more track ready. And is it just me or is the stock turbo way to small? It has half boost at 5750 rpms.
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
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Thanks for the Welcome guys! Man...Subarus are built pretty well to be honest. There are a lot of guys making 500+whp on the stock Sti 2.5 motor with just bolt-on parts and tunes! The problem is you just never know how long they are going to last.
There are a lot of reasons to build the motor with a large turbo. The lag is more so you need more rpms to play with. Aftermarket cams let you make power all the way through and come on a lot harder! But as far as reliability goes..Subarus are just unreal. A built motor will last a long *** time even with the abuse. The stock tranny will live a long life supporting 580wtq and the Driver Control Center Diff lets you move the power from the front to the back with the roll of a dial! And as far as tunes go....You can have a 600whp daily driver that will idle smooth, run like factory, and be pretty quiet. Not to mention when your foots out of it....its just a 2.5l so gas miles add up!
But...with all the good comes bad. Prices are crazy for builds....engine bay is pretty clustered....ex: injectors take bout and hour and a half. You have to find a AWD dyno and trust me they are few and far between. And probably the biggest problem if you will.. is that the entire car is a system. The injectors must match the turbo, the intake diameter must match the inlet, the Ecu must match the mods, the intercooler must be large enough, the maf cant be maxed out, the wastegate diameter must be the right size for the application, and so on and so forth. Everything feeds off eachother. So basically you cant just bolt on say....an intake, exhaust, and turbo or the car litterally will fuel cut, not idle correctly, and boost creep....you have to litterally do everything at one time to make sure everything has what it needs to perform. Cost a lot of money and gathering of parts.
But ounce the entire list of parts are together you need and you bolt them all on and have it tuned on the dyno...you drive it off the dyno as a whole new car that feels, acts, and sounds like it did when you bought it til you put your foot into it. And unlike a honda....you will never have to touch the tune til you are ready to go to the next "stage".
And yes.....I have already called on a few kits for the LS1....just not crazy bout the undercar kit..out of my element as far as location goes. Not out of the ? though.
There are a lot of reasons to build the motor with a large turbo. The lag is more so you need more rpms to play with. Aftermarket cams let you make power all the way through and come on a lot harder! But as far as reliability goes..Subarus are just unreal. A built motor will last a long *** time even with the abuse. The stock tranny will live a long life supporting 580wtq and the Driver Control Center Diff lets you move the power from the front to the back with the roll of a dial! And as far as tunes go....You can have a 600whp daily driver that will idle smooth, run like factory, and be pretty quiet. Not to mention when your foots out of it....its just a 2.5l so gas miles add up!
But...with all the good comes bad. Prices are crazy for builds....engine bay is pretty clustered....ex: injectors take bout and hour and a half. You have to find a AWD dyno and trust me they are few and far between. And probably the biggest problem if you will.. is that the entire car is a system. The injectors must match the turbo, the intake diameter must match the inlet, the Ecu must match the mods, the intercooler must be large enough, the maf cant be maxed out, the wastegate diameter must be the right size for the application, and so on and so forth. Everything feeds off eachother. So basically you cant just bolt on say....an intake, exhaust, and turbo or the car litterally will fuel cut, not idle correctly, and boost creep....you have to litterally do everything at one time to make sure everything has what it needs to perform. Cost a lot of money and gathering of parts.
But ounce the entire list of parts are together you need and you bolt them all on and have it tuned on the dyno...you drive it off the dyno as a whole new car that feels, acts, and sounds like it did when you bought it til you put your foot into it. And unlike a honda....you will never have to touch the tune til you are ready to go to the next "stage".
And yes.....I have already called on a few kits for the LS1....just not crazy bout the undercar kit..out of my element as far as location goes. Not out of the ? though.
07-28-2008, 12:24 AM
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clean scoobies! i want your sti 
aspen white is my <3 - i plan to get an sti one of these days! it's my next dream car - i found an 03 wrx for about 10gs i'm going to go look at tommorrow for a possible daily - about to make the camaro pretty radical 
aspen white is my <3 - i plan to get an sti one of these days! it's my next dream car - i found an 03 wrx for about 10gs i'm going to go look at tommorrow for a possible daily - about to make the camaro pretty radical 
07-28-2008, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for all the welcomes guys! I am excited to be here. I have a cash buyer as of this morning and a Forums guy wanting to possibly do a WS6+cash trade so I am hoping by next week sometime I will be in a LS1.
07-28-2008, 02:18 PM
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NO offense taken. Although you are honestly the first person to tell me my car sounds like a weedwacker haha. Thats kinda the whole reason I got into Subies was the fact that they actually sounded beefy. Trust me....in person you would never mistake my car as a ricer....it sounds more like a burly, lopy, v-8. The unequal length header mixed with the boxer engine really lets All 4 of the big *** cams give it justice as it idles. But thanks for the welcome.
I'd be lieing if I told you I didn't love being laughed at by an LS1 guy at a light only to leave him scratching his head when we take off like....WTF? Element of surprise....
I did this car the right way. Now its time to do the same in the LS1 world. Can't wait.
07-28-2008, 02:23 PM
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Maybe not for you. For an average Joe with a family who works for every cent he has....it's a gob of money. And 12k was just the motor. I have receipts for the turbo kit, ECU, FMIC kit, and fuel system that total over an additional $9,000. And I don't care who you are.....$21,000 into a car for any reason is a lot of money....even more so when it's just to make it faster.
Thanks for the welcome!!! I am excited to see what I can do to an LS1 with a quater of what I spent on the Subie!
retard, i told you you'd come around
07-28-2008, 08:54 PM
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welcome to the site and clean sti.
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
07-28-2008, 09:29 PM
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welcome to the site and clean sti.
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
He could always do a small shot of nitrous.
Welcome to the site!!! Always thought subbies were pretty cool.
07-28-2008, 09:57 PM
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I have a 2005 Legacy GT as my daily driver. Down/up pipes,larger top mount intercooler,and a tune were the only mods and she went 12.80@107mph. Totally stock it ran a 14.0@97mph. Nice car just wish it had the tougher 6 speed trans the STI comes with. Nice Subies to the OP
07-28-2008, 10:03 PM
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welcome to the site and clean sti.
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
got a couple questions for you. a friend of mine has a 07 sti with turboback, catback, intake, tune and pulley. he wants some more power but doesnt have enough cash, yet, for a bigger turbo. is there any middle ground in mods that are worth it? what about the tumbler delete? turbo inlet? have you done these mods and was there much of a difference??? thanks
07-28-2008, 10:57 PM
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those little boxes have a ton of potential as your 600hp shows(but also entirely too expensive)..... but man are they as ugly as a **** stain.... find a WS6 and turn it into a beast...welcome back.
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HAHA Whats up BEN!? Ya it's about time. To bad I never got to tear into your *** haha. Glad to be in the darkside man and I will be over for the cam and intake work soon! Later man.