I think the cam is 230 with .590 -.595 lift with 112 LSA

It is pretty radical. I like the way it sounds (mean). However, when you rev the car up it takes a while for it to come back down. I wish the rpm would settle down much quicker. Idle quality is ok.

Not sure about the heads as I was told it is a new design that JD has incorporated into Joe Prince's porting.

I can tell you this... it runs strong.

 

Hey George, thats a cool sig but you forgot all the engine work

 

the tune on george's car is right-it was done here with ls1-edit.

mike-your car was never dyno tuned as i remember.bryan from pcm,s for less could not make it up for joe p.to custom tune it so he put a tune in it from another car and tuned it with an maf translator because you couldn't stay--you had to get home.so you were suppost to send your computer back up to bryan.did you do that???you were suppost to send in the translator numbers and bryan was going to modify the program.

i am just clearing up my dyno tune for george c. and what happened to your car--your car was never dyno tuned--so the same thing won't happen to george c.-his car was done here on the dyno with ls1-edit.

thanks
joe d.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. JD's is THE BEST. I have been dealing with JD for 18 years and let noone else work on my cars. I could go anywhere but JD satifys me always. He the best tech I know and a great businessman.
RAY

 

You guys really trip me out. I Paid JPR to have my car professionally dyno tuned. From your own admission above this was not done to my car. Thanks for backing me up there and admitting that. On top of that I was never even told that JPR wasn't the one that would be doing the tuning and furthermore I was not notified until I was already up there that the guy who could do the dyno tune would not be able to make my session because of Columbus Day. As I was already up there what was I supposed to do. I was told by JPR that my car would be dyno tuned and it was not. I had no choice but to accept the flash from his wifes car. Nobody told me that my car would be down 2k miles later due to a faulty tune. Again I paid JPR to tune my car, I received a tune that detonated my engine. I had planned on coming up there for several months and it was JPR's responsibility to tell me ahead of time that my car would not be dyno tuned as planned. He knew or should have known that we would only be up there for a few days and even with the flash tune I was not warned that this tune was to lean, I was not told that this tune would was dangerous and that my car would not last long on it. Why was I allowed to drive from New Jersey to Fl on a tune if you guys knew it was faulty.

If I was told that my tune was dangerous I would have changed it asap or would have kept my stock tune. You guys wanted me to send my PCM to Brian to see if he could make more power out of the program not to make it safer, and I was also told to hold off on sending my PCM or changing my dyno tune until I got my Throttlebody from JPR. How long did that take to get to me again ?? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 months ??

Here is the facts as I see them

1. I paid JPR to professionally install of my heads/cam/tune
2. My tune was faulty which resulted in detonation of my motor which is why
I am not able to drive it now
3. My car lasted 2k miles after I left your shop. It has a total of 26k on it
now and I had 0 problems before I left New Jersey.
4. I was never told that I had to change my tune becuase mine was unsafe.
5. If I had sent my pcm back to Brian to have my tune changed that still
would not have been a dyno tune which is what we planned for and what
you are saying would have resolved my issue.
6. I paid for a dyno tune and did not recieve one.
7. My block is ruined because of the faulty tune.

Some questions I have if you don't mind answering them are.

1. Why was I not told my tune was unsafe?
2. Why would and unsafe tune be flashed to my car?
3. If you guys did not know that the tune was unsafe and found out at a
later date that changes had to be made to correct issues with the tune
why wasn't I called and told that I had to change my tune asap?
4. JPR told me on the phone today that he believes my issues were related to
not having enough fuel while crusing rather than at WOT, he said they
had to make adjustments to his wifes car in order to fix this and that he
felt he may have had the same issues that I had if this was not changed.
If this was the case why was I not called?

I know that JPR really means well and is good at heart and that he is one hell of a head porter but I feel my issues are related to my tune and that It was not my responsibility to do all the planning up there when I was never told that there were several shops involved in getting my package installed and tuned. I only talked to JPR and I only paid him and these are all my issues.

 

Here are the pics of my motor incase you want to see them so you know what I am talking about. This looks like long term detonation and high temps. Several others have told me this as well. I do not feel that this is my fault as I paid for a professional dyno tune. Whether it was flashed or dyno tuned it should have been a safe tune would you not agree?

 

I cant believe you would even criticize Mike K. about this. Is JD/JPR the group that let another fellow member drive their C5 home with low oil pressure? Is JD/JPR the group that told that same fellow C5 member they had to let the car cool down on the dyno because it was overheating? The same car JD/JPR tuned with LS1edit on the dyno? Mike K. and I drove up to JPR's shop because JPR would not send Mike K. the SECRET cam. Mike K. and I could have installed the head and cam package ourselves and had someone local tune the car. JPR insisted we come to NEW JERSEY and let him professionally install the package and guaranteed Mike K. he would get no less than 440rwhp. JPR told me personally if we came up he would have a rent a car and hotel room waiting for us when we got there. No rent a car and we had to front the hotel room until JPR took off some money from Mike K.'s bill. Hell JPR who lives in NEW JERSEY could not even tell us where a hotel was located. Mike K. and I spent the whole trip in NEW JERSEY sitting in a ******* garage in between sleeping in the hotel. In JPR's defense he did feed us Saturday and Sunday, but I usually get 3 to 4 meals a day. JPR put me on a diet. Mike K. had to help JPR work on his own car because JPR's helper showed up late Sunday and JPR complained of being tired. We planned for 3 months in advance for this trip. JPR pretty much gave us the date he said he would be free to work on Mike K.'s car. Once we got up there we realized that JPR never scheduled a dyno time with JD and JPR tried to tap dance around that fact by using a so called Columbus Day Holiday to get out of it. Only after bitching to JPR about poor scheduling he told us he contacted JD and JD said he would open shop on Columbus Day just for us. It's funny that when we got to JD's shop there were a bunch of cars there and full staff working just like it was any other day. JPR never told us he was not tuning the car until we got to NEW JERSEY. The bottom line is Mike K. rec'd a wack tune. Mike K. paid for a dyno tune. JPR did tell Mike not to send the pcm until he sent Mike K. the throttlebody and for Mike K. to redyno the car and send the graph along with the pcm. Unfortunately Mike K.'s car did not last that long after the head and cam install. Looking back we were lucky to make it home. We live over a thousand miles from NEW JERSEY. JD you might want to relax and take a step back on Mike K.'s issue. JPR has already told Mike K. he is going to compensate him. Mike K. ONLY asked for what he paid for the install and tuning. I personally would be asking for MORE since JPR is DIRECTLY responsible for Mike K.'s engine being down at this moment. Mike K. is willing to accept JPR has issues and at this moment Mike K. does not want to add more drama to his ailing situation. Hell Mike K. has told JPR he would accept payments on what JPR has already admitted he would pay. What more could you ask? JD one minute you sound like a stand up guy and the next a flat out idiot. You need to make a decision on which you want to be. If I were you I would wash my hands of this situation and be glad WE are not coming back up there.

 

Why shouldn't JD be mad. You call him about issues you have with JPR. JD was not paid or involved in this deal so why blame him? JP only works for JD's as a head porter. JD's is not resonsible for deals that were made with JPR. End of story!!!

 

I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THE SITUATION--I NEVER WAS FROM THE BEGINNING.I WAS JUST STATING THE TUNE I DID ON GEORGE C.'S CAR WAS GOOD.
WHY SHOULD I BE GLAD YOU ARE NOT COMING BACK UP HERE??????
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN--

HAVE A NICE DAY
JOE D.

 

"However, when you rev the car up it takes a while for it to come back down."

Mine does that too, but I've read it's usually done for driveability with big cams.

Bryan who does the tunes does know his stuff.

 

I just re-read it and I see how that can be taken the wrong way. All I meant was you do not have to fix another persons mistake due to your current relationship with JPR.

 

The reason we go through JD is because that is the only way to get in contact with JPR.
Nobody is sure about who owns what business and who we should call. In my case I only know that I can reach JPR at 3 numbers. His business, his cell, and at JD's. As I do not get an answer at the first two I called JD's. JD I fully agree with you that you are not responsible for what happened to me as you were not even in business with Joe at the time and my car was only dyno'd on your dyno, nothing more. From the conversation I had previously with JPR before I spoke with you JPR seemed willing to work with me and it seemes as though he agreed with my point of view. I am only asking you to make sure that Joe stays in touch with me which you have said you will do and to not let him forget about me. I only ask this of you because he is now your employee. Thanks. Mike K.

 

Damn I thought all these questionable dealings were being taken care of .

Good luck MIke

 

I forgot to congratulate George on getting his setup back.. 460/420 is pretty damn stout!!! Congrats on the new setup.

 

It wasnt 460/420 Vince. The #s are uncorrected. They said his #s were mid 440s. Typical of the heads/cam packages available these days....

 

Oh! Thanks for correcting me. Atleast George C. is happy..

 

As long as George C. is happy...

 

Cammin, the HP numbers are corrected. They are corrected to STD (ask any quality long time engine builder what the proper correction method is) I can get you the SAE numbers if you like. This was also full exhaust and belts, many others get those numbers pulling off everything but the kitchen sink. I had the pleasure of riding in the car while we were checking the drivability tuning and it is loud, but a very fun car. I am sure George will really enjoy the car.
Mike, when the car was on the dyno, what was the air fuel ratio on the base tune, and what was it after it was done with the translator? With the closed loop GM system it is virtually impossible to run the car lean unless there is an intake leak after the maf either in the manifold, or in the cold air piping itself after the MAF. Even then the O2 sensors will adjust the fuel trims to add more fuel. The adjustments I made on Joe's car for part throttle were to improve driveability.
I see that Vince made a slight admission to perhaps misreading the posts, but calling Joe at JD's an idiot is flat out nuts when you and your friend then turn around and want him to help you keep contact with the situation, etc. Joe D is a top notch businessman, runs a quality shop with great employees and has stepped up because of his integrity and his human nature to want to help others with these unfortunate situations, that he didn't even have anything to do with in the first place. Any engines and heads purchased at JD's will be of top quality like Georges motor is and Erics will be. JD uses excellent machine shops, Joe Prince does the head porting and just head porting, and Marcello (really great mechanic) does the assembly and installs. Joe P is a great head porter, and I believe you should do what you are best at and so does JD. That is why he has Joe just port heads. I'm not a great wrench myself but am great with electronics and computers. Thus, I do engine tuning.
I am so pleased with the quality of work and products at JD's that I have joined with them as well. I have one of the best (if not the best) reputations as far as tuners go and would only join up with a shop I felt was of equal quality. I passed up an opportunity to go with another shop 6 months before that because I just did not feel comfortable with them. All you need to do is stop by the shop and talk with Joe or the mechanics and see the quality of work and the cars that are at the shop to be worked on to see they are an excellent choice. I have been to many shops where you see cars there with 4 months of dust on them stacked next to other cars. JD's also gets the job doen promptly as well as right. The shop is very clean compared to most shops and they go to extra lengths to protect the paint, interior, and installed parts on your car. They even have a great guy that comes over to wash and polish up the cars before they leave if they have been there for any amount of time.
Well, enough of my soapbox, have a good rest of the weekend all.

 

Hey Brian, make sure Vince polishes up my blue Mach1 before it leaves. LOL RAY

 

What did I misread PCMFORLESS? I said I re-read what I TYPED and see how it could have been taken the wrong way. PCMFORLESS why dont you explain what Mike K.'s pictures show? JPR did the install and Mike K.'s engine looked great before the H/C package and PCMFORLESS tune. Almost 2k miles later with no other changes other than JPR's H/C package and PCMFORLESS tune the engine is fried. The only thing Mike K. asked JD was to pass along a message and to see can he get JPR to keep his WORD on what Mike K. and JPR discussed. It was JPR who called Mike K. and told Mike K. that HE believes that the tune was the problem with Mike K.'s car being down. It was JPR who told Mike K. that PCMFORLESS's tune was not setup properly on his car. I am honestly starting to believe someone is smoking crack or eating some out of season oysters up there. You guys need to get together and get your stories synchronized before posting. JD and I have corresponded via email and we are straight. I understand where he is coming from. Now we have PCMFORLESS putting in his two cents w/out knowing all the facts. FACT ONE: JPR and Mike K. have already made an agreement on how Mike K.'s problem can be resolved. FACT TWO: Nothing else needs to be said about JPR and Mike K.