HP Tuners question (Not happy)
06-25-2010, 03:31 PM
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I definitely do not know all about buiness. I do know that dumping bad customers is practiced.
I hope you're good at programming.
06-25-2010, 04:16 PM
#62
Most of the posters in this thread are at bat for EFILive so when anybody comes on that has an issue with HP Tuners you get an EFILive sausage fest. I have both and I don't pick sides so I don't go swinging off anybody nuts. But since you want to read back on some of my posts please post up what I am wrong about I would love to know.
PS in that thread you can load any operating system you want with HP Tuners as well but that's not what he was trying to do. I could easily do it with either HP Tuners or EFI Live but the guy was a newbie with HP Tuners and didn't know how to use it nor should anybody condone just loading in another's calibration since every motor is different.
PS in that thread you can load any operating system you want with HP Tuners as well but that's not what he was trying to do. I could easily do it with either HP Tuners or EFI Live but the guy was a newbie with HP Tuners and didn't know how to use it nor should anybody condone just loading in another's calibration since every motor is different.
Here is the situation,
A friend of mine knows just a little bit about HP Tuners and has bought the 650 dollar pro version. My car and his car have nearly the same mods. Same Cam, same heads, similar exhaust, similar stall size, and similar intake.
What does you have to do to take his tune from his 2002 camaro and put it on my 2000 camaro?
As far as I know the PCMs are different part numbers because the 2000s have EGR pump programming.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks,
Dakota
A friend of mine knows just a little bit about HP Tuners and has bought the 650 dollar pro version. My car and his car have nearly the same mods. Same Cam, same heads, similar exhaust, similar stall size, and similar intake.
What does you have to do to take his tune from his 2002 camaro and put it on my 2000 camaro?
As far as I know the PCMs are different part numbers because the 2000s have EGR pump programming.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks,
Dakota
There might be many differances in the calibrations, but the OS will copy right over to the PCM. So your post is wrong
Now when you get to the part where you need to put the 2000 VIN back in the PCM, exactly how will you accomplish this?
So, no you can't do it with HP Tuners, been there, tried that, wasted credits.
PS Instead of trying to rattle somebody's cage on here, maybe you should take a few reading comprehension lessons, so you understand what you posted.
I always felt these foums were to educate and help your fellow member and of course to help the sponsors sell poduct, so if you need loan of a a panties extractor, or cranial / **** head inversion repair instructions, I'm sure one of the fine members on here would help you out
PSS There would be nothing wrong with him using his buddy's tune for a base file, his buddy has HP tuners, to tweak and finalize the tune, with their great features, like real time tuning (even though., I prefer my roadrunner) and auto-tune, you should be able to get a one arm monkey, that's half blind, to do the tune with great success, even you seem to be able to tune with it. That's saying a lot for its ability, right there
06-25-2010, 04:35 PM
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PSS There would be nothing wrong with him using his buddy's tune for a base file, his buddy has HP tuners, to tweak and finalize the tune, with their great features, like real time tuning (even though., I prefer my roadrunner) and auto-tune, you should be able to get a one arm monkey, that's half blind, to do the tune with great success, even you seem to be able to tune with it. That's saying a lot for its ability, right there
But please since you insist on going back through my previous posts to try to dig up something that I said incorrectly, I am still waiting. This is fun I haven't been in an internet e-peen measuring contest in a while... and my dad can beat up your dad.
06-25-2010, 05:21 PM
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There is a big difference between giving a **** about your thread and having fun ripping on you, but you seem to have enough comprehension problems as it is soo.... It's also funny how angry you get when people aren't boohooing with you in the corner. THREAD BACKFIRE! I'm sure the long standing vendors that you have such great relationships with are going to look at this thread and wonder when they might be next to **** you off so you can make another boohoo thread on here to feel sorry for yourself.
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06-25-2010, 05:27 PM
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You haven't been right about much in this thread, and you're not making progress. 40-something and two Fortune 50 corporations over the past 15 years. Army before that.
I definitely do not know all about buiness. I do know that dumping bad customers is practiced.
I hope you're good at programming.
I definitely do not know all about buiness. I do know that dumping bad customers is practiced.
I hope you're good at programming.
Wow how this thread has gone to **** do to a couple of brain children. Jim C.
06-25-2010, 06:00 PM
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Last night I got a phone call from Jay at HP Tuners and I will say that this guy should be making the customer service decisions at HP Tuners. He is very easy to work with and I found him to be quite the gentleman. As such I would recommend to anyone having issues with customer service to email him. I believe that you will find him much more receptive than anyone else. I sent him an email a second ago explaining that I ordered EFI Live but wanted to let folks here know that he appeared to genuinely care about their customers, unlike the rest who would appear indifferent. I wish he was in charge of overall customer service. Thanks Jay I appreciate your time and effort, you are a gentleman and a scholar. I'm sorry we are parting company and wish I had met you earlier. Take care.
Jim C.
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06-25-2010, 07:10 PM
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No ****!? I hope your not talking about the mail room. Which two companies, I'll make sure to avoid them if they are hiring folks like yourself. Where did you get your education/degree? What is it/ are they in? What do you do? Now you have my curiosity peeked. You can bet your sweet *** I'm good at what I do. Wow how this thread has gone to **** do to a couple of brain children.
Jim C.
Wow how this thread has gone to **** do to a couple of brain children. Jim C.
06-25-2010, 07:51 PM
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06-25-2010, 08:14 PM
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And he will not pass AZ emissions that way nor will his VIN be correct so my post is not wrong. Bottom line is it was two new guys playing with HP Tuners and neither had any experience with it so the last thing somebody should do is load in another's tune because it's the same combo and expect it to be OK.
You can now get off your high horse (most likly a hobby horse, in your case), you've been proven wrong
By the way, you assumed his buddy had no tuning experiance, because he just bough HPT, I know guys with lots of tuning experiance, that don't own tuning software
06-25-2010, 08:24 PM
#73
You're wrong, it can pass AZ emissions, if you used a real tuning package, like even JET DT, since will allow you to put the required VIN back in the PCM. I recently did a 12200411 swap PCM for a guy that need to pass plug in emissions testing with a 98 F- body that was rewired for the newer PCM. After doing the segment swap to correct the fuel gauge (something else you can't do yourself with HPT), I Flashed the PCM and put in his correct VIN for the vehicle. It went through with no issues. I do a fair amount of flashed for the Mazda / Nissan swap guy and put their VIN's back in the LS PCM, if they need to pass plug in emission testing, you can't do it, because of your beloved software's license scheme.
You can now get off your high horse (most likly a hobby horse, in your case), you've been proven wrong
You can now get off your high horse (most likly a hobby horse, in your case), you've been proven wrong
So are you digging around on the site to try to find something I was wrong about?
06-25-2010, 08:37 PM
#74
You do realize that's what I said right? That he won't be able to pass emissions here in AZ by using HPTuners to just flash in a different operating system from his friends car with a different VIN. I am glad you like arguing with yourself. There is a reason I use multiple software packages.
I didn't assume anything, the op in that thread said he and his buddy were new to the software and were asking how to do it. What you don't know is that I know both of the guys and already talked to them about it to get them taken care of. He was also going on a long cruise the very next day after the cam install which is also why I told him to wait and not drive around on a tune from another guy's car. No reason to burn two credits to load in a different OS when it's not necessary. Like I said, you don't know of the situation so go ahead and keep making assumptions
So are you digging around on the site to try to find something I was wrong about?
I didn't assume anything, the op in that thread said he and his buddy were new to the software and were asking how to do it. What you don't know is that I know both of the guys and already talked to them about it to get them taken care of. He was also going on a long cruise the very next day after the cam install which is also why I told him to wait and not drive around on a tune from another guy's car. No reason to burn two credits to load in a different OS when it's not necessary. Like I said, you don't know of the situation so go ahead and keep making assumptions
So are you digging around on the site to try to find something I was wrong about?
I wouldn't waste my time, but your original post is still "Wrong" since rthey were planning on swapping the whole OS, it didn't mater if they were differances in the way the calibrations or tables were laid out.
06-25-2010, 08:45 PM
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So I take it you are done trying to argue over the basics?
06-25-2010, 08:56 PM
#76
It was very much correct since the proper way to do it and pass emissions WITH THE SOFTWARE THEY HAD would be to go table by table and copy differences over, which requires the knowledge to know which tables are totally different and/or scaled differently and which ones really need to be copied since there are plenty that don't "match up" yet are fine left alone between the operating systems. But I'm sure you knew that since you think you are the expert here. LMFAO
So I take it you are done trying to argue over the basics?
So I take it you are done trying to argue over the basics?
This still doesn't change the fact you were wrong
06-25-2010, 09:07 PM
#77
First you say they shouldn't use his tune, now you say he should swap the tables differances over, make up your mind, or keep back peddling. The correct way to do it is swap the operating system, they just so happen to make a choice in software, that couldn't do the correct thing, what would you expect from a bunch of newbies, listening to all the hype.
This still doesn't change the fact you were wrong
This still doesn't change the fact you were wrong
You are really grasping here but that's OK, it's still entertaining to see you fumble around.