If theres anyone out there remotely considering buying a 8.8 rear end from extreme chassis and Craig, be very careful. Here is the exact email log of the conversations between me and Craig (the owner and builder). The last email from him was a week and a half ago and I gave him fair warning that if he didn't respond that I was going to get serious. I ordered the 8.8 over 3 months ago now and paid for it in full over two months ago when craig said it was ready to ship. Unfortunatly when Craig said that it was ready to ship i went and sold by 10 bolt so my beautiful heads/cam 00 SS has been on jackstands since then. Since he hasn't replied to any form of contact in over 2 weeks Im now under the assumption that he has ripped me off. And several of his 8.8 rears that he actually did send out have broken. There was a post out a few weeks ago that was a "waiting list" of people complaining about how long they had been waiting for their 8.8, but that was taken down. Well im tops now, at 13 WEEKS. Here is the story. Scoll down to the bottom to read it cronologically.


From: "craig howington" <alotanos@myself.com> Add to Address Book
To: "Paul Iskander" <iskander879@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:35:03 -0500
Subject: Re: 8.8


hey paul it is going out man i just got back into town from another damn family emergency with my sister i know you dont want to hear any excuses i am really sorry man i cant believe so much **** can happen to one person i am going to pay for 2nd day shipping also ok to get it there quicker ! i will get you the traking number asap!

craig

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Iskander
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: craig howington
Subject: Re: 8.8

> Hi craig, what is going on over there. This is the
> fourth time that you have said that you would send it.
> You need to email or call me and let me know what the
> status is. You can't tell people one thing and not
> follow up on it. If there is a problem, let me know,
> but don't say that you will have tracking numbers and
> then not reply to emails for a week. Meanwhile, my
> daily driver is sitting on jackstands for over 2
> months. This is a huge inconvienience and has cost me
> a lot of money. Please reply by Wednesday or I'm going
> to take more serious actions.
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> hey paul i have one more that wasnt put together last
> night before cut off at the shiping company its a
> very long drive to them so i want to get them all
> there in one trip it will be there tonight ok i am
> shipping four at a time right now to get caught up
> even if i would have got it there last night it
> couldnt have shipped untill tonight ok i give you the
> tracking # when i get it ok man!
>
> craig
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Iskander
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
> To: craig howington
> Subject: Re: 8.8
>
Hi craig, did you get it to the shipper today?


Craig: hey paul its done all i have to do is get it to the
shipper as soon as they are open again ok i will let
you know as soon as its on the way ok thanx man

; craig

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Iskander
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:00:45 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: craig howington
> > Subject: Re: 8.8

hi craig, were you able to get the rear sent out
today. hey paul i am getting your rear shipped tomorrow
ok my builder has been out and all my parts are in
his shop to put the rears together he is back today
and getting all my rears finished up man i will give
you the tracking # when i get it shipped ok

craig

---- Original Message -----
From: Pa ul Iskander
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:01:57 -0700 (PDT)
To: craig howington
Subject: Re: 8.8
ok thanks, please get it out monday. i am really
hurting for transportation here.
>

hey man sorry i have not been at the shop
working since then i was out with a medical problem but
i am back tomorrow and will get it finished for you
ready to ship on monday ok i will let you know when it
is shipped ok man its just been fucked up here!
craig

----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Iskander
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
To: craig howington
Subject: Re: 8.8

Hey Craig, this was your last email 10 days
ago. I havent heard from you and still no 8.8. You
still don't answer your phone. Whats going on.

Craig: hey paul i did get the updated housing most of the way done today i am not going to send you the housing that i was because of the TA bracket situation. you are getting the first of the new design ok i didnt want to send you the old style housing. it will be assymbled tomorrow and shipped the next day ok i will let you know when i get it ready ship ok ! thanx
for being paitient man you are getting an awsome r ear
tho ok!! i
will elt you know ok!

craig
----- Original Message -----
Fro m: Paul Iskander
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:1 9:02 -0700 (PDT) >
To: craig howington
Subject: Re: 8.8

Hi Craig. Did you get a chance to send out he rear today. Hope so, thanks about the shipping. I do have a lot of guys waiting on my opinion of the rear who keep asking if I have it in yet. So if I like it i'll still give you some good referrals.


Craig: man thats cool i am REALLY sorry bout this its kinda out of my control but as a business owner i am willing to make you happy i understand that i have put you through a tough time and i am really sorry i will eat the sh ipping cost i have alot ta customers that are upset but theres not alot i can do about it a know i will have your rear ready to ship by monday ok i didnt > know it but i ordered 12 sets of gears and when i was out of town the 3.73's came in and none of the 4.10's did so when i g ot back my builder said he i dont any gears for this rear so i had to reorder the gears and they were trying to **** me so i was like i already paid you and have customers waitin on these rears and they were pretty much like oh well so i will not order anything else thru them but i got the gears in today and it will be put together this weekend and shipped out on monday ok and again i am really sorry man you will love there rar when you get it ok! i will let you know on monda y when it is shiped
ok!
talk to you then!

craig



----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Iskander
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:22:24 -07 00 (PDT)
>
To: craig howington
Subject: Re: 8 .8

Ok, thanks for getting back to me. Hope your bro has a full recovery. Could il me back letting me
know when you will ship the rear out. Also, I've had to deal with a lot of extra costs since the camaro is my daily driver and it has been on jackstands
for over a month since I sold my 10 bolt thinking I would have the 8.8 in the car wit hin the week. I think refunding the shipping costs would be fair,what do you think.

From: "craig howington" <alotanos@myself.com> Add to Address Book
To: "Paul Iskander" <iskander879@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:37:44 -0500
Subject: Re: 8.8


hey paul sorryman i have been out of town again i just got back in last night my little brother was in an accident he was riding a gocart ina parking lot and the steering messed up and through him into the road and he was hit head on by a car and was in a coma untill lest night he finally woke up i am really sorry i did not have my phone with me as it doesnt pick up there i have alota people that left messages and are mad i am really sorry bout this i have to get to the shop today and see what all has gone on since i left i will let you know what i find out when i get down there! and agian i am really sorry just really had no control over this situation. i will let you know as soon as i find out whats going on!

thanx

craig

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Iskander
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
To: alotanos@myself.com
Subject: 8.8

> Hi Craig, this is Paul Iskander. I haven't been able
> to contact you for over a week. Its been over 7 weeks
> since I first ordered the rear and 3 weeks since I
> sent you the final 1200 dollars for the rear. I am
> very upset. I've left multiple messages on your phone
> with no response. Please respond to this email or call
> my cell 818-640-0432. If I dont get any response from
> you by Wednesday, I'll have to take more serious
> actions. I really dont want to do this. All I want
> is the rear or my money back. I understand that you
> may be busy, but you cant possibly be busy enough not
> to return a message or email.


Above is the first email that I had saved but there were several before that since this was 7 weeks after i ordered the rear. Unfortunatly I paid craig already so Im pretty much screwed. Here's a fun game, see how many times craig promises that the rear is finished and ready to send out.
craig

 

hhmmmm...

 

This post is not a joke, anyone even considering a rear end for Extreme Chassis is completely out of their mind. Craig is a theif that cannot be trusted.
Craig
Craig
Craig
Craig
Craig
Craig
Craig

 

Been there done that.

 

damn man, im totaly stressing out over this man. ive called last week and then again today. im lucky becuase i can still drive my freekin car, but this is gettin pretty redick. i mean, 13 weeks and you still dont have yours. that means you get yours before i get mine. its been 9 weeks here. you have been waiting a month longer than me!!! and its your daily!! someone just got a rear from him, so im assuming craig isnt dead or anything.

 

Wow, that's ridiculous. I wouldn't buy anything over $10 that can't spell assembled. Ha. Assymbled? Is that right Ma?

 

I just got an E-mail from him today that he will have a tracking number for me tonight. 13-14 weeks here. I paid for the shipping and all in advance. Daily driver, 10 bolt is broken,...car is sitting. I start it every now and then and dream I hope I get the tracking number.

 

ppl should just give up and buy a 9 inch... i was gonna go with the 8.8 from them but opted to spend a few more bux..... now i'm GLAD i did!

 

I was also going to put the order in for the 8.8 in a month or less but I guess I will not now because that is rediculous. I guess I will go with the 12 bolt. Sorry Craig but that's just too many excuses for me.

 

It's been 9 weeks for me now and I'm starting to get pissed! I'm a very patient but all these excuses I've been getting also are getting old. Certain things I can understand but now the "moving shops" and "my little bro was in an accident" are getting suspicious and I'm getting worried about not getting what I paid for. There's NO reason people should have to wait this long PERIOD! If he had questions about getting the rears out in a reasonable time then he should not be accepting orders and payment. I just want my damn rear and no more excuses!!

Matt S.

 

Waiting on tracking number

 

I know Craig personally, and he is not a thief. He just bit off a LOT more than he can chew, and had a lot of obstacles along the way. It's just bad timing. I'm sure he will get everyone's rears out to them ASAP. BTW, the new 8.8 design is bulletproof. I've seen it in person, and it is easily 10 times stronger than the old design. I'm sure there will be no problems with breakage from now on.

 

Still waiting, Craig????

 

Well, Craig, it's tonight and I hae no tracking number. Craig, I'm getting really tired of this. Just as I thought no tracking number.

 

Bump...

 

Im really starting to worry now. I have been told 3 weeks when i paid in full and now its 5 weeks. I know its nothing compared to the other guys, but I'm renting a car now for 5 weeks because my damn POS stock 10 bolt broke. I hope craig get on this board and explain whats going on. Craig if u can't get my rear end soon, please just send me the money back so i can go get me a 12 bolt or 9 inch ford and get going with my life.

PS. Hey NBM99ta.... can u tell craig to come and answer this thread.... We would like to know whats going on.

 

Sue him, get a lawyer to call him, that will make him move his ***.

 

Damn. This should be posted everywhere. That's just unacceptable. At least he will be able to finish his pending orders, since he will have no new orders, ever

Dope

 

By the way, you guys should definitely talk to your credit card companies. Try to dispute the charges and cancel it. Get your money back and buy something else. Or maybe get your money back, and if he ever sends you a rear, THEN pay him.

Dope

 

I'm definantly doing that, and as far as a lawer is concerned, I have a friend whos is a lawer. I will have him give him a call. That should stir things up. I'm seriously considering sueing him.