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05-25-2010, 08:06 PM
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Look into getting some bilsteins from a GXP. Morad parts often sells them. They seem to handle a lowering spring faily well. If you are going with standard KYB's then don't expect too much from them. They don't handle a lowering spring well and can wear out pretty quick. I lowered my 99 grand prix and got maybe 10K miles on KYB GR2's.
You can also do KYB AGX's from a previous generation wbody. You would need the sway bar endlinks and lower control arms. This gets a little pricey.
You can also do KYB AGX's from a previous generation wbody. You would need the sway bar endlinks and lower control arms. This gets a little pricey.
05-25-2010, 08:36 PM
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Look into getting some bilsteins from a GXP. Morad parts often sells them. They seem to handle a lowering spring faily well. If you are going with standard KYB's then don't expect too much from them. They don't handle a lowering spring well and can wear out pretty quick. I lowered my 99 grand prix and got maybe 10K miles on KYB GR2's.
You can also do KYB AGX's from a previous generation wbody. You would need the sway bar endlinks and lower control arms. This gets a little pricey.
You can also do KYB AGX's from a previous generation wbody. You would need the sway bar endlinks and lower control arms. This gets a little pricey.
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05-26-2010, 03:53 PM
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damn this sucks. i was hoping to only spend a little over $500 on suspension not including what the stb bars are going to cost. That is pretty much going to be my suspension. Im just wanting some struts that i can get a good amount of mileage out of that wont run me too much
I had some KYB GR2 installed on my Impala base.
While far better than the stock, 0W-05 soup-filled struts, they are not high performance struts by any stretch of the imagination.
One rear Bilstein cost me about $215 + $47 shipping from GM Parts Direct.
05-26-2010, 06:35 PM
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Good luck. Good parts cost good bucks.
I had some KYB GR2 installed on my Impala base.
While far better than the stock, 0W-05 soup-filled struts, they are not high performance struts by any stretch of the imagination.
One rear Bilstein cost me about $215 + $47 shipping from GM Parts Direct.
I had some KYB GR2 installed on my Impala base.
While far better than the stock, 0W-05 soup-filled struts, they are not high performance struts by any stretch of the imagination.
One rear Bilstein cost me about $215 + $47 shipping from GM Parts Direct.
05-27-2010, 10:02 AM
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not install KYB struts on an Impala or MCSS. They're not designed correctly and they will rub the **** out of your tires. The rears are considerably worse than the fronts.
KYB supposedly redesigned their struts (raised the spring perch) to accomodate this issue with the FE3/FE4 performance suspension, but it's still not right, since even their new version will touch the tire. Clearance with the original GR-2's while sitting is fine...you have about a finger's thickness with stock wheels...but as the tire gets hot and expands, it will rub. The AGX (performance adjustable) is no different.
If I can find the pics of mine, I'll show you the damage. I have GR-2's and SSC springs installed right now, but plan to replace the struts as soon as I can.
KYB supposedly redesigned their struts (raised the spring perch) to accomodate this issue with the FE3/FE4 performance suspension, but it's still not right, since even their new version will touch the tire. Clearance with the original GR-2's while sitting is fine...you have about a finger's thickness with stock wheels...but as the tire gets hot and expands, it will rub. The AGX (performance adjustable) is no different.
If I can find the pics of mine, I'll show you the damage. I have GR-2's and SSC springs installed right now, but plan to replace the struts as soon as I can.
05-28-2010, 07:44 AM
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I don't believe anyone at LS1 or NAIOA have spent the money on the Bilsteins...but it's truly hit or miss until someone installs them and after 10k reports back with no issues. The GR2's were supposed to fit every w-body with the exception of the police & taxi packages, yet they don't...so until there is a tried & true remedy, I'm going to have to run stock.
The major issue is, again, the spring perch. If someone were to re-drill the mounting holes (if that's even able to be done safely), I suppose you could remount the strut and have the plate sit the 1/2" higher it needs to be. I haven't looked at the setup in the rear recently, but when I take off the tires for my next _______ repair, I'll see if I can do this and save the time/$$ that will need to be invested to reinstall the OE struts.
The major issue is, again, the spring perch. If someone were to re-drill the mounting holes (if that's even able to be done safely), I suppose you could remount the strut and have the plate sit the 1/2" higher it needs to be. I haven't looked at the setup in the rear recently, but when I take off the tires for my next _______ repair, I'll see if I can do this and save the time/$$ that will need to be invested to reinstall the OE struts.
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These are the new Excel-G's that are supposed to fit...
And these are the ones that don't...
It doesn't look like there is enough room to re-drill the holes as needed for the 1/2" clearance we need. I suppose that you could elongate the holes to get close, but what (besides a ****-load of torque) is going to keep the weight of the car from blowing the knuckle/assembly right back up to the original resting spot?
Typically, for alignment purposes, they do this but it's a side-to-side adjustment, not up & down.
And these are the ones that don't...
It doesn't look like there is enough room to re-drill the holes as needed for the 1/2" clearance we need. I suppose that you could elongate the holes to get close, but what (besides a ****-load of torque) is going to keep the weight of the car from blowing the knuckle/assembly right back up to the original resting spot?
Typically, for alignment purposes, they do this but it's a side-to-side adjustment, not up & down.
