New Member Looking At '06-'07 Monte SS's
08-11-2010, 12:46 PM
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i think you can get them at any parts store. i know there is a guy on here that has 2 trans coolers and he was saying that he rarely sees 180* if i remember correctly. i know the post is on here somewhere maybe in a trans build thread not sure though.
08-11-2010, 01:01 PM
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That's Mgpeagle (Mike's) car. He had a pair of the coolers above because he was running 250 degree trans temps all the time due to a bad converter. Now that he has a new tranny and converter, the second cooler is overkill. One of these is PLENTY. They're designed for mobile homes, after all!
08-11-2010, 01:10 PM
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Thanks for the info and compliment LS1 Racing! Sounds like you've had some issues with your Impala, good thing it's under warranty. That's really why I've been looking to buy one that's GM Certified, in case crazy stuff like that goes wrong.
As for my Monte, we swapped in a World Class T5 that was rebuilt with Hanlon Motorsports parts. The flywheel is a GM 16lb. nodular flywheel for 1-piece RMS motors. The bellhousing is from an '84 Camaro (the only year they had a T5 with mechanical linkage) and the clutch/brake pedals and Z-bar/linkage/frame mount are from an '81 El Camino. Those parts are a bolt-in, so the only real issue was the crossmember. I have a friend that's a welder, so he cut the trans mount and welded on a piece of plate steel after we moved the crossmember up in the frame, since the T5 mount is about 7" away from where the 200-4R trans mount sits. Once the trans was in, I just needed to cut the hole in the floor for the shifter and have the driveshaft shortened/balanced.
Hope that helps, and thanks again for the compliment!
As for my Monte, we swapped in a World Class T5 that was rebuilt with Hanlon Motorsports parts. The flywheel is a GM 16lb. nodular flywheel for 1-piece RMS motors. The bellhousing is from an '84 Camaro (the only year they had a T5 with mechanical linkage) and the clutch/brake pedals and Z-bar/linkage/frame mount are from an '81 El Camino. Those parts are a bolt-in, so the only real issue was the crossmember. I have a friend that's a welder, so he cut the trans mount and welded on a piece of plate steel after we moved the crossmember up in the frame, since the T5 mount is about 7" away from where the 200-4R trans mount sits. Once the trans was in, I just needed to cut the hole in the floor for the shifter and have the driveshaft shortened/balanced.
Hope that helps, and thanks again for the compliment!
It sounds like a pretty straight-forward swap. It might be a bit more difficult for me, as I'd need to source a more rare BOP bellhousing. Also, I know the World Class 5-speed is quite plentiful, but I think the torque limit is around 310 lb-ft, and I'd be exceeding that by a pretty healthy margin. I'd probably need to go with a T-56 to handle the torque. It's also is closer in length to the TH200-4R, so it would require less "adjusting".
Anyway, if I decide to go this route, I'll definitely be bugging you for advice!
08-11-2010, 01:14 PM
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Interestingly, before my trans was rebuilt and the converter replaced, I saw those temps in normal driving with a single cooler. Since my rebuild, my temps are about 10 degrees higher than before across the board. The hottest I ever saw pre-rebuild was 178, and that was in Phoenix in 95 degree weather. Since the rebuild, I've seen 208 twice. This is was in 100-degree weather going up the backside of the Grapevine, so it's probably not too ridiculous.
Anyway, I guess the converter really makes a difference.
08-11-2010, 01:21 PM
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LS1 I live in ATL now and it has been almost 100 degrees everyday. Should just do one cooler or should i do two? Im on a stock rebuild and im pretty sure stock convertor and plan on when my warranty runs up in about 85,000 miles to get a TEP built trans.
08-11-2010, 03:55 PM
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Thanks for the how-to!
It sounds like a pretty straight-forward swap. It might be a bit more difficult for me, as I'd need to source a more rare BOP bellhousing. Also, I know the World Class 5-speed is quite plentiful, but I think the torque limit is around 310 lb-ft, and I'd be exceeding that by a pretty healthy margin. I'd probably need to go with a T-56 to handle the torque. It's also is closer in length to the TH200-4R, so it would require less "adjusting".
Anyway, if I decide to go this route, I'll definitely be bugging you for advice!
It sounds like a pretty straight-forward swap. It might be a bit more difficult for me, as I'd need to source a more rare BOP bellhousing. Also, I know the World Class 5-speed is quite plentiful, but I think the torque limit is around 310 lb-ft, and I'd be exceeding that by a pretty healthy margin. I'd probably need to go with a T-56 to handle the torque. It's also is closer in length to the TH200-4R, so it would require less "adjusting".
Anyway, if I decide to go this route, I'll definitely be bugging you for advice!
08-11-2010, 04:20 PM
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No problem! The T5, T56, and 4L60E are all 3" longer than the 200-4R. The major adjustment was on the trans mount location, that's what was way off. I'd guess you would be fine with a T56 - an aftermarket one would be even stronger. Depending on what you want to do for linkage (mechanical or hydraulic) you might be able to find an aftermarket bellhousing that'll bolt up to your 3.8. Let me know if you have any more questions, and thanx again for all of the advice in this thread!
