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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Will ls3 injectors fit the stock ls4 manifold and fuel rail? Are the the same length as the ls4 injectors?
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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No they will not, and no they are not. We do share the same style plug with them IIRC.

Can I ask why?
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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I was wondering cause I know were to pick up a set really cheap and I was gonna use them in addition with a turbo on my gxp.
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Looks like they use similar injectors.

The LS3 injectors should be a direct replacement (regarding fitment) for your LS4 injectors.

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Originally Posted by deatschwerks
Looks like they use similar injectors.

The LS3 injectors should be a direct replacement for your LS4 injectors.
I doubt they have the same flow rates. I'd like to see some numbers before bolting them on.
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I agree with you there, since the guy is needing them for a turbo project I was assuming he was wanting them because they were bigger.

The LS3/LS7 injectors are ~34# @ 43.5 psi fuel pressure.

...and fixed my post to reflect I was referring to fitment.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by deatschwerks
I agree with you there, since the guy is needing them for a turbo project I was assuming he was wanting them because they were bigger.

The LS3/LS7 injectors are ~34# @ 43.5 psi fuel pressure.

...and fixed my post to reflect I was referring to fitment.
We are about a 27.8# if I remember correctly so those would probably do well for a turbo car.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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They drop right in and use the same connector. We have a 4 bar (58 psi) returnless fuel system. They flow 41.7 lb/hr @ 4 bar. However, I have noticed some irregularities which I partially attribute to fuel pressure not being measured directly by the ECM. Since the system is only regulated at the self-contained pump, the ECM assumes 58 psi at the fuel rail and uses the MAP sensor to find the actual pressure drop seen by the injector (engine vacuum increases flow). I have some work planned that will systematically get me to the bottom of the irregularity over the next 2 months. What year GXP? What tuning software will you be using?
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Tune is key here. I've seen what happens when people don't get tuned for newer injectors, and if left long enough, it ain't pretty!
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Tune is key here. I've seen what happens when people don't get tuned for newer injectors, and if left long enough, it ain't pretty!
Agreed, although I would assume tuning with the addition of a turbo. I recommend using 08 Vette tables until I work on the issue further.

Here is my thread on the irregularity I was referring to:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...frequency.html

The original injectors are going back in the car temporarily for a more careful analysis of the issue, but that won't be for a while yet.
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