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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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I've been having the abs, traction control, stability.... warnings for awhile now. had the codes pulled awhile back and it was pointing to a rear wheel sensor. just got around to replacing it and the issue still there. went to get the code pulled again and they couldnt connect to it. just checked with my hptuners and i'm able to connect to the pcm/tcm.... could i have a bad body control module now? i'm going to try and take it to another place to see if maybe it was just the oriley employee not knowing what hes doing.
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Not sure if this helps but a regular scanner I don't think brings up abs codes, not sure what the parts guy used but I believe the scanner is different. Someone more in the know should chime in. Good luck.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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the one they used can pull up abs codes. they were able to scan it a few months back pointing me to the wheel speed sensor. i just tried to get it scanned again and still no luck.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Good to know. We don't have Oreillys in my area, do you think Advance auto or Autozone has the ABS scanner and would scan it as well? Also You have HP tuners, this has the capability also?
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Yea, HP tuner will only pull the power train codes. It is not able to communicate with the other modules.

I've said this a few times on here, but i use AutoEnginuity, i really like it. It is able to talk to all the modules on the vehicle.

For instance, you can see the wheel speed of each wheel, while you are driving. You will need a laptop with it though.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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the ABS scanner does not connect to the body control module, it connects to the EBCM located under the hood of the car. You need to either send that out for repair or have it replaced. It looks like this, this is mine after i had it sent to module master for repair.


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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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not sure its abs, mines just flashing for everything abs, stability, traction control....
i did have it scan awhile ago thats where it was pointing to a wheel sensor. granted then the car would have to move a few feet before the lights showed up. lately its right when you start it.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
not sure its abs, mines just flashing for everything abs, stability, traction control....
i did have it scan awhile ago thats where it was pointing to a wheel sensor. granted then the car would have to move a few feet before the lights showed up. lately its right when you start it.
that's exactly what mine did as well, when it detects a major fault with the ABS system it disables all functions controlled by the EBCM. That's abs, traction control and stability.
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Just a thought but I have heard before the ABS sensor wires could have a crack or the pigtail is the problem . Might want to give that another look.
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Just a thought but I have heard before the ABS sensor wires could have a crack or the pigtail is the problem . Might want to give that another look.
i did look at that as well but didnt see anything. i hate to just throw more parts at it, its just odd that it was able to be scanned and now it cant be.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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Just a thought but I have heard before the ABS sensor wires could have a crack or the pigtail is the problem . Might want to give that another look.

damn i hope its not that... bcm is only 100ish... that things like between 400-500 for a reman one.
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I hear yea. Do a search on that company Spawne32 suggested. I watched a video from that company and it was good info. I believe the turn around is quick, and I also think the car possibly can still be driven when it is removed to be serviced but someone else should confirm. When I looked into it for my daughters GTP it was about $120 I think, ours should be similar I would think.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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yeah looks like they are around 150 or so. is there a way to test if its good or not? i hate just throwing parts at **** lol
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BCM would have to be reprogrammed at the dealership in order for it to work, which would cost you alot more. Repairing the EBCM is only about 160 bucks. Turn around time for the repair was 2 days, but you can drive the car without the EBCM, you have to remove the module from the front of the ABS motor very very carefully.
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Not sure. Have you unhooked the battery at all to see if that does anything? I doubt it will but you never know.
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test for the faulty ebcm is typically to pull codes off it lol i just know that the BCM likely would not cause traction control, stability and abs to turn off.
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
yeah looks like they are around 150 or so. is there a way to test if its good or not? i hate just throwing parts at **** lol


I'm not a fan of throwing parts at things like that either. But, with computers like this is can be difficult without the correct tools. If you have a multi meter you can check the outputs of all the wheel sensors, you can check the bus lines to make sure they are communicating. You can make sure the EBCM has ground and power.
The best way in my opinion is to back probe the connect, some prefer to pierce the wires, but i only do this in hard to reach areas. If you do make any holes into any wires, fill them in with clear silicone sealant.

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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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so back to not being able to read the codes. is that a problem with the abs module goes bad? or could i have another issue as well... im starting to think of either just taking it in, or trading it in lol
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
so back to not being able to read the codes. is that a problem with the abs module goes bad? or could i have another issue as well... im starting to think of either just taking it in, or trading it in lol
if your getting it scanned at a local parts store, they probably dont know what they are doing with the scanner or the scanner is not capable of pulling ABS codes off the car. Again as far as im aware, BCM is not connected to the EBCM in that manner that it would not allow communication to it.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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they were able to pull a scan before and it said i had a bad wheel sensor. so its was talking to something at one point
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