Spring/Rocker/Push rod install pics
Staging Lane
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Well, I think I will change the springs also when I go with the 1.8 rockers just to make sure in case I have any valve float67y. It can't hurt and will maximize the gains of the higher ratio rockers. I would appreciate it if some one could check me on the parts that I need. Here is my list (from the Speed Inc website):
CC26918 Ovate Wire Spring Set
PAT8452 Harland Sharp LS1 Non-Adjustable 1.8 Rocker Arms
CC7955-16 Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Besides the usual tools, I will also need a spring compressor. I am thinking of getting the Crane valve spring tool that you used BADDLS1SS. I guess I will also need the air hose/tool to hold the valves up. Is there anything else that I would need? Thanks to everyone for the help.
CC26918 Ovate Wire Spring Set
PAT8452 Harland Sharp LS1 Non-Adjustable 1.8 Rocker Arms
CC7955-16 Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Besides the usual tools, I will also need a spring compressor. I am thinking of getting the Crane valve spring tool that you used BADDLS1SS. I guess I will also need the air hose/tool to hold the valves up. Is there anything else that I would need? Thanks to everyone for the help.
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From: LITH, IL.
Assuming the retainer is reused from the stock springs and they want you to reuse the stock keepers, I would go ahead and get some extra keepers, there is always one that jumps and hides somewhere in the garage. An extending antenna-type magnet will save you aggravation beyond belief on this job when it comes to removing (and retrieving) the keepers.
Is there actually a problem with the stock pushrods? Flexing, or is it just one of those ugrades that you might as well do as long as you have done 98% of the work anyway?
Is there actually a problem with the stock pushrods? Flexing, or is it just one of those ugrades that you might as well do as long as you have done 98% of the work anyway?
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you don't have to do springs if you don't want too. it pulls just fine to 6100, no signs of float or anything. in my case, id like to do springs and pushrods for later mods. but if you're not wanting to do a cam, you don't need to do them.
Staging Lane
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Okay. This question is for BADDLS1SS or Area47. I am about to make a decision as to getting the rockers for my 06 GXP. In your estimations, how much of an increase in HP and torque did you get from the rockers? Also, if you did get a noticable increase in power, was this before you changed your shift points to 6500 BADDLS1SS? Currently, I have a Vector Tune which does have increased shift points to 6100-6200 rpms. The other thing is I am trying to decide if I really need the springs and the stronger push rods. I know that If I have any valve float that I would need the springs and the stronger rods. I guess I am trying to convince myself to get the rockers, springs, and rods. Is there any possible negatives to going with this setup? Thanks for your help and info.
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On The Tree
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From: South Dakota
Originally Posted by Area47
i gained 13 whp. yella terra's have some more weight to them vs the HS.
on the whp deal, my car was silly lean when i dynoed, there is more power. but i will never know just how much is in there.
on the whp deal, my car was silly lean when i dynoed, there is more power. but i will never know just how much is in there.
Last edited by SDfbody; Mar 5, 2007 at 08:53 PM.
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The Crane's are a bitch to setup if you don't have knowledge on doing them. But once you get them right they are awesome. The kit I got had the rockers, pushrods, studs and guideplates. I didn't change my springs because I don't plan on pushing my motor passed 6050rpm shifts.
Staging Lane
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If your car is starting to get some miles on it and you are going to do the rockers also do the springs and rods. At first I only installed the rockers. I drive my 06 GXP a lot and so have put quite a bit of miles on it (approximately 54,000). I was starting to get valve float and I think it was because the springs with that many miles could not cope with the increased lift. So I installed the 918 springs and the CompCams rods and have not had problems since.
How would the heavy springs and high ratio rockers affect the stock DOD lifters? The lifters seem like a "weak point" in the LS4?
I would LOVE to have a 6500 shift point in my LS4 Fiero swap but don't want to kill and replace lifters every year.
Does anyone have actual dyno charts with springs/lifters in an LS4 spinning up to 6500+ rpm?
Will the stock tranny survive behind a 6500rpm LS4?
The engine is out of the car now, so mods will be easier to do, BUT the swap will need to pass an emissions inspection to registered. So will the springs and rockers effect emissions? I know the ECM reprogramming could have some emissions side affects depending on what is done.
I would LOVE to have a 6500 shift point in my LS4 Fiero swap but don't want to kill and replace lifters every year.
Does anyone have actual dyno charts with springs/lifters in an LS4 spinning up to 6500+ rpm?
Will the stock tranny survive behind a 6500rpm LS4?
The engine is out of the car now, so mods will be easier to do, BUT the swap will need to pass an emissions inspection to registered. So will the springs and rockers effect emissions? I know the ECM reprogramming could have some emissions side affects depending on what is done.
