LS1 GTO A4 vs LS4's??
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
My GTO is a auto so mine is not quite as strong as the 6-speed I don't think. I do have a handheld tune and CAI which has made her so much quicker.
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Originally Posted by kissmyss03
a ls1 gto is a bad investment when the ls2 is out there. god u can get a ls1 gto so much cheaper cuz the demand is low. i bet just about every person that bought a 04 gto was pissed when 05 hit
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Originally Posted by Ls4GXP
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. used to own one, borrowed to my brother brought it back home totaled now I'm cross shopping ls1 or ls2? test drove an ls2 wasn't to impressed over ls1.Now I made up my mind I like the sleeper look and the exhaust to one side, and the simplicity of a cable trottle body.from a 04Ls1 and going back to a 04ls1, I do not like all that extra software garbage invating my engine!!!! PS do you know what your SS is running on a used market? It'll never holds it value as the rare Ls1GTO PIRIOD! THERES NOTHING BAD ABOUT INVESTING IN A RARE LS1GTO.
OH, I think you mean pEriod. And rare LS1 GTO....you have me rofl-ing over here.
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Originally Posted by Ls4GXP
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. used to own one, borrowed to my brother brought it back home totaled now I'm cross shopping ls1 or ls2? test drove an ls2 wasn't to impressed over ls1.Now I made up my mind I like the sleeper look and the exhaust to one side, and the simplicity of a cable trottle body.from a 04Ls1 and going back to a 04ls1, I do not like all that extra software garbage invating my engine!!!! PS do you know what your SS is running on a used market? It'll never holds it value as the rare Ls1GTO PIRIOD! THERES NOTHING BAD ABOUT INVESTING IN A RARE LS1GTO.
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Originally Posted by ImpalaSS07
Geez why so defensive, everybody has opinions man. Gto's are nice, but I would take my impy any day over one, for the simple room it has.
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Personally I'd prefer an LS2 GTO, but what do I know haha. Liked them but as hexxLS4 said I too wanted the room. I wanted 4 doors as well so that's what kept me from gettin the MC as well. When I got my SS they had a real nice fully loaded black MCSS on the lot.
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Yeah it just seems like a 400hp 3700-3800 fat *** like the GTO would have loads of trunk space. Me--><--GM They better get it right with the G8.
As for the LS1 vs LS2 debate, I see no reason why the LS1 would be more desirable than the LS2 version. the fact that they're just not as common doesn't hold enough weight. LS2 = more power, better looking....I guess maybe someone with a crap load of LS1 mods from their old F-Body might want it over an LS2...
As for the LS1 vs LS2 debate, I see no reason why the LS1 would be more desirable than the LS2 version. the fact that they're just not as common doesn't hold enough weight. LS2 = more power, better looking....I guess maybe someone with a crap load of LS1 mods from their old F-Body might want it over an LS2...
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Originally Posted by Ls4GXP
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. used to own one, borrowed to my brother brought it back home totaled now I'm cross shopping ls1 or ls2? test drove an ls2 wasn't to impressed over ls1.Now I made up my mind I like the sleeper look and the exhaust to one side, and the simplicity of a cable trottle body.from a 04Ls1 and going back to a 04ls1, I do not like all that extra software garbage invating my engine!!!! PS do you know what your SS is running on a used market? It'll never holds it value as the rare Ls1GTO PIRIOD! THERES NOTHING BAD ABOUT INVESTING IN A RARE LS1GTO.
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Unfortunately, the GTO never was welcomed by the US market.
If you think back to '04, GM was hard pressed to get rid of them in '05 and beyond. Only when they Americanized the car (hood scoops, dual exit exhaust) did the car sell, but did it meet sales expectations? So they may be rare, but no one wanted one of the 18,000 when they were originally imported.
I test drove the GTO against my MCSS in '06 ... MCSS won by a landslide for overall functionality. But they didn't sell many of them either.
The US market wants 4-doors.
Back on topic - I'm not afraid of a LS1 GTO, but I usually "change the radio station" or "call someone" if a LS2 GTO wants to play.
If you think back to '04, GM was hard pressed to get rid of them in '05 and beyond. Only when they Americanized the car (hood scoops, dual exit exhaust) did the car sell, but did it meet sales expectations? So they may be rare, but no one wanted one of the 18,000 when they were originally imported.
I test drove the GTO against my MCSS in '06 ... MCSS won by a landslide for overall functionality. But they didn't sell many of them either.
The US market wants 4-doors.
Back on topic - I'm not afraid of a LS1 GTO, but I usually "change the radio station" or "call someone" if a LS2 GTO wants to play.
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Originally Posted by kissmyss03
a ls1 gto is a bad investment when the ls2 is out there. god u can get a ls1 gto so much cheaper cuz the demand is low. i bet just about every person that bought a 04 gto was pissed when 05 hit
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When I went to the track last July, there was a 5.7L GTO running 14.24's-14.5@99. I think it was an 04. It was a six speed and he was leaving the line pretty good too. My car was ripping off 14.0's and I even got it into the 13.9s. I raced a 6.0 GTO that same night, and he ran a 12.3@117mph spinning half way down the track! That car was mean!
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Originally Posted by kissmyss03
a ls1 gto is a bad investment when the ls2 is out there. god u can get a ls1 gto so much cheaper cuz the demand is low. i bet just about every person that bought a 04 gto was pissed when 05 hit
You could say the same for the people who bought the 04/05 monte carlo's.
I had the 2002 Monte Carlo SS AP i was happy i wrecked it so i could get the 06. Now that i think about it the older monte carlo's are kinda sad compaired to now. What killed it in the end is the big diffrence in look between the monte carlo's The normal 2000/2004 SS's looked like crap unless you got the apperience package. Its amazing what a body kit some decent rims and a spoiler will do for a car.
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I thought the front / rear ends of the '06+ MCSS's were much needed enhancement.
I might have seen the new Z06 and MCSS the same day at the proving grounds in '04, couldn't wait for my '05 to come off lease to pick one up.
Best looking MCSS ever, IMO. As much as I liked my '85, with the V8 now it doesn't come close.
I might have seen the new Z06 and MCSS the same day at the proving grounds in '04, couldn't wait for my '05 to come off lease to pick one up.
Best looking MCSS ever, IMO. As much as I liked my '85, with the V8 now it doesn't come close.
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Best looking MCSS ever, IMO. As much as I liked my '85, with the V8 now it doesn't come close.
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
I wouldn't call the LS1 GTO a bad investment. Also about as many people were pissed about having the LS1 GTO as people who were pissed when the LS4's came with FWD!!
I agree.
A FWD V8?? JK guys.
An A4 GTO will be faster at the track. M6's are hard to launch. Either way Im sure it will be a good race. Get sticky tires, and make sure you lower trq mngt and the car will scream.
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Originally Posted by hexxLS4
That's one of the things stopping me from getting into a GTO...the lack of trunk and fold down seats....
I dont see how a LS4 will beat either GTO but I would still race one just to put a scare into them.
When I raced my goat we had about 5 LS1's and the slowest ran 13.5 or 13.6 LS2's about .3 quicker on average.
#39
well im assuming most have just a CAI on their ls4s around here, or just a diablo tune.. i drove a stock ls4 thursday and it feels like a dog compaired to my car. the tune made a night and day difference in my monte, if i were to get another one i would have to tune it the day i got it cuz i wouldnt be able to deal with the stock tune
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Originally Posted by kissmyss03
well im assuming most have just a CAI on their ls4s around here, or just a diablo tune.. i drove a stock ls4 thursday and it feels like a dog compaired to my car. the tune made a night and day difference in my monte, if i were to get another one i would have to tune it the day i got it cuz i wouldnt be able to deal with the stock tune