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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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I plan on getting a 160 degree t stat and a fan switch soon. I don't really have the money for headers right now but i want to do some mods in the mean time. I was thinking electric water pump or possibly some suspension work (SFCs or lower control arms). I only drive the car in the summer and i take it to the track a few times a year. Any thoughts?
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don't gears cost alot to install?
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$150 for the Gears, probably about $100 to install them, unless you know someone that does them.
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thats it, i thought it was around 400-600 bucks. good to know
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Originally Posted by the_merv
$150 for the Gears, probably about $100 to install them, unless you know someone that does them.
Generally speaking gear are $200+ to have installed right.

Add in another $100 or so for the install kit for gears.
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What gears do you have stock? If you have 2.73's then I'd say go for gears. If you have 3.23's then I'd spend the money elsewhere for now.

The parts will probably come to $250 or so, and it'll probably be $250 to $350 to get them installed correctly.

I'm a fan of electric waterpumps. Drag radials are also a very good investment.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
$150 for the Gears, probably about $100 to install them, unless you know someone that does them.
$100 for someone to install them and make up a new install kit is a little on the low side. Every shop that I called in Oregon/Washington for quotes at the time of my swap was in the $375 range.
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thats it, i thought it was around 400-600 bucks. good to know
With the gears and labor you will most likely be in the 400 dollar range unless you do it yourself
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yes..$150 is way low for an install unless a side job.

if you have a 3.23 as mentioned ..leave it.

I would suggest a stall converter and drag radials being your best bolt-on improvements at this time.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28mara
I plan on getting a 160 degree t stat and a fan switch soon. I don't really have the money for headers right now but i want to do some mods in the mean time. I was thinking electric water pump or possibly some suspension work (SFCs or lower control arms). I only drive the car in the summer and i take it to the track a few times a year. Any thoughts?
I would say by the time you invest $$$ into gears and install you could have bought a nice set of headers for the most part. I say save up for a bit longer for the headers. If you decide to go gears and you do have 2.73, hit me up cause I have some extra gears laying around that are in great shape and there yours for dirt cheap.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Yeah i do have the 2.73s. I plan on doing both gears and headers sometime, but i just want to do one mod for under $300. Its gonna be my christmas present from my parents
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Must be people charge high in your area, around where I live I can think of 3 places that are about $100 for the Install. I forgot the Install Kit, so there is another $50.

I do pretty much all the work on my Car, but I have a good friend that will help out with the technical **** like that for no problem, and if he needs a favor, I help him out.
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Must be people charge high in your area, around where I live I can think of 3 places that are about $100 for the Install. I forgot the Install Kit, so there is another $50.

I do pretty much all the work on my Car, but I have a good friend that will help out with the technical **** like that for no problem, and if he needs a favor, I help him out.
You must have some shops close by deperate for work
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IDK..that is what I hear people I know that pay for it at them places. I do alot of my work, and if I need something that I cant do, I get ahold of my friend. He runs a Transmission Shop, so the Car has been in there a few times for work on a Lift, and that's where I plan to put it back together.

Nothing like a spot where it's free and no one will bother you, and you have alot of good Tools.
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IDK..that is what I hear people I know that pay for it at them places. I do alot of my work, and if I need something that I cant do, I get ahold of my friend. He runs a Transmission Shop, so the Car has been in there a few times for work on a Lift, and that's where I plan to put it back together.

Nothing like a spot where it's free and no one will bother you, and you have alot of good Tools.
That would be nice to have a hook up like that!! I'd be there right now doing work! lol
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If I had my Car here in Iraq with me, it would be done alot faster, and give me something to do..lol
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Originally Posted by blkZ28mara
Yeah i do have the 2.73s. I plan on doing both gears and headers sometime, but i just want to do one mod for under $300. Its gonna be my christmas present from my parents
There is a set of Hooker long tubes in the for sale section for $150, many other good parts there also. Check the feedback also.

I did the suspension first on my car, as I feel there is plenty of power available from the stock motor. 95% of my parts are used parts from the classifieds on here and other camaro websites. Must read up on some feedback issues also tho'.

For the $300, I think, if you want headers, I'd grab the headers($150) and some lower control arm relocation brackets(new)$80.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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You can just get the relocation brackets and use the old control arms? Or do you have to get new lower control arms?
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Originally Posted by blkZ28mara
You can just get the relocation brackets and use the old control arms? Or do you have to get new lower control arms?
Aftermarket lower control arms would be a much better part. However I was trying to stay under the $300 for ya. The stock ones could be used with the relo. brackets, they could also be boxed at home on the cheap and used just fine until aftermarket ones are buyable for ya.

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