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thought on AI 226/234 cam kit?

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Old 12-19-2008, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
I'm confused. What do you like? The kit, or the 12.20 in the previous post?

Both.
Old 12-19-2008, 07:30 PM
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I Sent the order today so i'm super pumped and can't wait, not sure how long it will be but i'm super pumped.
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u will be satisfied
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I think i really will be, i've been checking out a few videos here and there and i love the idle on it, I got a few more things to buy before i can put the motor back together yet, Still gotta get an EWP and a few other misc things. i think i'm gonna look into a mail order tune by Herron performance for the mean time then mid spring haul my junk to speed inc and have it dyno tuned by Ion to get everything perfect.
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Would this cam work alright through a 6 speed and 3.45 rear gears or would you have to go with lower gears like 3.90's or 4.11's?

I'm tempted to go with this very cam but I don't want to go with a lower gear ratio than I already have. Also, is it really that much more difficult to tune a car with a cam that has 110LSA as apposed to one with 112LSA?

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they make another cam very similar to one has has but a little bigger and better just for the 6 speed
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
they make another cam very similar to one has has but a little bigger and better just for the 6 speed
Yeah, I saw that too. Specs are 230/238 - .575/.575 - 110 LSA but it also says that "gears" are required so I'm assuming they mean something along the lines of 3.90 or lower and I really don't want to ditch the 3.45's I've got right now. Also, the operating range for this cam is 2300-6400rpm, while the operating range on the 226/234 is 2000-6200rpm.

I know it's not much difference, only 200rpm, but I'd rather start making power lower in the RPM range (for better drivability) and peak out at a lower RPM as well (for more reliability) - even if it is only 200rpm....

My main concern is whether the car will run alright with a 3.45 rear gear though and what the negative effects on drivability/performance would be if I stayed with the 3.45's....
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i thought m6's were 3.42s
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Originally Posted by TravisMcGill2000
i thought m6's were 3.42s

You're thinking of the Fbody 10 bolt rear ends. Yes, those were/are 3.42's

My car's a C4 Vette with a ZF6 "black tag" 6 speed. 3.45's come stock with the Dana 44 rear end.
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learn somthing new every day lol
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How strong is the Dana44? Did it come in the automatics to?
My grandpa has a c4 and im just curious? Is it stronger than a 10 bolt?
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4.10s behind a T56 is not bad, I know it sounds like a radical gear but once you consider the double overdrive of the T56 4.10s are just fine on the highway.

Tuning a 110lsa is not bad, the myth that it is difficult comes from the old TBI stuff which was hard to tune.
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i love my 4.10s it allows me to actually use 6th gear
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Originally Posted by IronOutlaw
How strong is the Dana44? Did it come in the automatics to?
My grandpa has a c4 and im just curious? Is it stronger than a 10 bolt?
They're much, MUCH stronger than the ten bolt. About 98% of the guy's on the Corvette forums running 10's are still running the stock Dana 44. The Dana 36 isn't as strong as the 44 but it too, is much stronger than a 10 bolt. The automatic's came with the 36. The standard came with the 44.

I don't know if there is a "maximum" amount of HP/Torque they can handle as many people have had different luck with them, much like any other rear end. It's hit or miss.

But as I said, The Dana 44 is a super strong rear end and I personally don't know of anybody who's broken one, of all the guy's I know with C4's. Plenty of them are making in excess of 600hp through Forced induction 383/396 LT1's - and they beat on them daily- have been doing so for years without any problems.

Originally Posted by 96lt1m6
i love my 4.10s it allows me to actually use 6th gear
I'm not sure about the T56's but I know that in the ZF6, sixth gear is basically just a freeway gear. It's nothing more than an overdrive and is NOT meant for "pulling", "racing" or top speed or anything like that. They're strictly an overdrive gear meant to conserve fuel, nothing more.

Maybe the TF6's are different

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Tuning a 110lsa is not bad, the myth that it is difficult comes from the old TBI stuff which was hard to tune.
I've just been told that by others as well. I was also informed that AI can can sell you a cam with the exact same lift/duration as the cams listed above, but with a 112LSA instead.. It would make for a little more stable idle and a little more low-end at the cost of losing some HP up top.

I wonder how much though ?

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By putting 4.10s in a 6 speed car you can use 6th at something below 70mph. You do the engine no favors by turing it 1500rpms on the highway and lugging it, that does more harm than a few more rpms are. The belief that ultra low rpms is good for feul economy is another outdated myth, I only get like 2mpg difference between my 2.56 gears bone stock wagon which is much heavier than the sedan, and the heavily modified sedan with 3400stall and 3.73s and a shorter wider tire. The computer is a wonderful thing.
You will get a lot farther modding the car once you get past all these old myths that admittedly are quite common.

On the 110/112lsa thing, here is some reading.
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb90252.htm
In otherwords forget you wider LSA will make more lowend idea because 110 is still wide.
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Yeah, I saw that too. Specs are 230/238 - .575/.575 - 110 LSA but it also says that "gears" are required so I'm assuming they mean something along the lines of 3.90 or lower and I really don't want to ditch the 3.45's I've got right now. Also, the operating range for this cam is 2300-6400rpm, while the operating range on the 226/234 is 2000-6200rpm.

I know it's not much difference, only 200rpm, but I'd rather start making power lower in the RPM range (for better drivability) and peak out at a lower RPM as well (for more reliability) - even if it is only 200rpm....

My main concern is whether the car will run alright with a 3.45 rear gear though and what the negative effects on drivability/performance would be if I stayed with the 3.45's....
actually even the duration is larger than the automatic version..the main thing is call A.I and speak with a representative they are very helpfull.

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