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Best cam with stock Heads that would net be the best E.T.

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Old 02-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by starbucks
Thanks for all of the help guys. I think i am going to be giving loyd a call.
Let us know what ya go with
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Ill be giving him a call sometime this week. ill be telling him i want a came that is going to net me the best quartelr mile gain. Thanks agian for all the help guys.
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thought about a gm847?
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I did for about a second then every where i read the tiny crane 227 ran a faster E.T.

I talked to lloyed he recomended the 223/230. i also asked him what did he think that i would run he said 12.45 around 112 He also said that was a purly a gustamation. I was kinda hoping for something closer to 12.0's but who knows maybe it will run close to that.
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Originally Posted by starbucks
I did for about a second then every where i read the tiny crane 227 ran a faster E.T.
Yeah... just cause some guy went faster with x-cam doesn't mean you will.
If you go by that then you might as well find out what cam Big rick ran, cause his cam made him run LOW 8s by that rationale.
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i just got Lloyds 223/230 cam and Can not wait to install it. hes a great guy and knows his stuff very well. give him a call and talk him through what you want. i pay paled him $300 and it was at my door in less then 2 weeks. the cam is a high quality piece. i wish i had a place to do it
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Out of your choices assuming each cam had the right combination going with it, the cc503 has the most potential and will be the fastest. Basically the larger you go with the cam assuming you have the right combination of parts to match, the faster the car will be...so with a cc306 or gm847 the car will be faster than the cc503 etc. etc. Lloyd's 223/230 sounds like a great cam so I would give it a shot. I personally have a 224/230 107lsa from him and love it to death!
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Out of your choices assuming each cam had the right combination going with it, the cc503 has the most potential and will be the fastest. Basically the larger you go with the cam assuming you have the right combination of parts to match, the faster the car will be...so with a cc306 or gm847 the car will be faster than the cc503 etc. etc. Lloyd's 223/230 sounds like a great cam so I would give it a shot. I personally have a 224/230 107lsa from him and love it to death!
Thanks for your input. I am hopeing you will be able to anwere one more question for me guys. Will i have to upgrade to large injectors?
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Originally Posted by starbucks
Thanks for your input. I am hopeing you will be able to anwere one more question for me guys. Will i have to upgrade to large injectors?
Shouldn't have to, I ran the stock 24's when I had the cc503 and was fine.
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Shouldn't have to, I ran the stock 24's when I had the cc503 and was fine.
Thanks for the quick reply stealth. I just got a email from bryan at pcm for less and he seem to recomend 30lb injectors for that cam. Do you think i could get away with the stock ones untill i get enough money to buy some ford red tops? and do you think that me queezing a 150 wet shot has something to do whith me having to upgrade.
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Originally Posted by starbucks
Thanks for the quick reply stealth. I just got a email from bryan at pcm for less and he seem to recomend 30lb injectors for that cam. Do you think i could get away with the stock ones untill i get enough money to buy some ford red tops? and do you think that me queezing a 150 wet shot has something to do whith me having to upgrade.
You should be fine to get away with the stockers for a bit. Im saying that based off myself putting a few thousand miles and countless track passes on my car with the stock injectors and the cc503. The nitrous may have a reason for him saying that but being wet its not like your running a dry shot and absolutely need larger injectors. Definetly a good idea to have the 30's however with the Nitrous eventhough its wet but off the juice the 24's will be fine to run for awhile.
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You should be "ok" on the stock injectors, not saying largers ones wouldn't help, if you go with one of Lloyd's cams, then talk with him about injectors, he recammended some #37s & a 58mm TB for his LE1 package, not too say the stock ones won't be ok with just the cam, but talk with Lloyd, it looks like you went with his stuff, he is a cool cat & very helpful, for the N2o, running a wet system will give you the extra fuel, so injector size shouldn't dictate that, just the engines HP level "NA" on what injectors should be run, another thing i would invest in is an adjustable regulator for the fuel & a good pump like the 255 if you don't have them yet, get the PCM tuned for the nitrous/cam, i personally recammend Ion @ Madtuner, he did a fantastic job on mine for the juice, it runs perfect on & off the bottle.
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Originally Posted by LM97Z
You should be "ok" on the stock injectors, not saying largers ones wouldn't help, if you go with one of Lloyd's cams, then talk with him about injectors, he recammended some #37s & a 58mm TB for his LE1 package, not too say the stock ones won't be ok with just the cam, but talk with Lloyd, it looks like you went with his stuff, he is a cool cat & very helpful, for the N2o, running a wet system will give you the extra fuel, so injector size shouldn't dictate that, just the engines HP level "NA" on what injectors should be run, another thing i would invest in is an adjustable regulator for the fuel & a good pump like the 255 if you don't have them yet, get the PCM tuned for the nitrous/cam, i personally recammend Ion @ Madtuner, he did a fantastic job on mine for the juice, it runs perfect on & off the bottle.
Yep, wet shot will have no effect on injector size in this case. But I'd bet you'd need a better fuel pump with the cam AND spray.
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I allready have the walburo 255
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Out of your choices assuming each cam had the right combination going with it, the cc503 has the most potential and will be the fastest. Basically the larger you go with the cam assuming you have the right combination of parts to match, the faster the car will be...so with a cc306 or gm847 the car will be faster than the cc503 etc. etc. Lloyd's 223/230 sounds like a great cam so I would give it a shot. I personally have a 224/230 107lsa from him and love it to death!
I dont agree with this statment, going massive with a cam isnt always good. Even if you have supporting mods for it, going big isnt always going to make you faster.

But I understand what your getting at, some noobs might take it the wrong way and over cam there cars.

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gm847 likes and needs high rpm, if you don’t feed that cam the rpm it needs then your setup is going to be crap. Granted this cam should have ported heads, Seen good numbers from it with stock heads when you wind out the motor to what it likes.

I mean thinking about it, if a cam likes over 7,000rpm and your shifting at 6,300 of course its going to make **** power numbers and times.


Some people on this forum put big cams in there car just for the sound, its a joke!
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Originally Posted by slick1851
I dont agree with this statment, going massive with a cam isnt always good.
He said "assuming supporting modifications." Given that statement, he is absolutely correct.
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Originally Posted by slick1851
gm847 likes and needs high rpm, if you don’t feed that cam the rpm it needs then your setup is going to be crap. Granted this cam should have ported heads, Seen good numbers from it with stock heads when you wind out the motor to what it likes.

I mean thinking about it, if a cam likes over 7,000rpm and your shifting at 6,300 of course its going to make **** power numbers and times.


Some people on this forum put big cams in there car just for the sound, its a joke!
actually with stock heads the beefy gm847 runs out of steam about 500rpm earlier than the cc503 which would make it safer for a stock RA

my cc503 stock headed car was still making power @ 6400rpm whereas just about every gm847 stock heads car I've seen stops making power around 5800-5900rpm
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I ran the cc503 before my le cam. It was a fun cam with good power.
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Originally Posted by myltwon
actually with stock heads the beefy gm847 runs out of steam about 500rpm earlier than the cc503 which would make it safer for a stock RA

my cc503 stock headed car was still making power @ 6400rpm whereas just about every gm847 stock heads car I've seen stops making power around 5800-5900rpm
There was a thread on here were a member was spinning the gm847 up high and making power?


Even had a dyno sheet, unless he was blowing steam


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