Need input in road race 383 build
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You might consider contacting one of our guys that is out in California. His name is Randy & he's done very well locally. The probability is that he could put you in touch with local professionals. We would suggest you consider them for their familiarity with your application and accessibility. He ran a basic stock short block with one of our daily driver oriented heads/cam setups for a season or two before upgrading to his SR setup. Here is his website w/ contact info:
http://home.comcast.net/~rmackintosh/Site/Welcome.html
http://home.comcast.net/~rmackintosh/Site/Welcome.html
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OK the diff between a stock lenhth and stroker may be negligible. The diff between cranks is a good bit :forged scat 51lbs ,lightweight 47lbs, superlight forged 44lbs and they have some lighter, and yes, these are two piece.
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The power level will be determined by budget really. What level of components can a guy afford, and how long must it run between freshenings. If the DJ is the measuring stick, I don't see why an emissions legal 383 can't make mid 400's for hp & tq. Randy has a basic 383 w/ a mild SR that is intended to last multiple seasons. Additionally, the cam is mild enough to afford him 1100-1400rpm worth of headroom beyond his peak power rpm. After he ran the first couple races with the new 383 his competitors were posting online about it. Someone had started a rumor that he had a "detuned sb2.2 cup engine" or something along those lines. It is more a testament to his setup and driving skill than anything else. It "only" makes 450rwhp.
#26
However if you were willing to swap cams for the test I have a hard time believing anything you could do to the heads would cause a failure with the stock cam. That was my main point--that'd be easier and more effective than swapping heads. In any case, I don't think a really quality set of heads big enough to let the 383 breath could be a bad choice for any reason.
Your car sounds pretty well prepared otherwise, sorry if I incorrectly assumed by the first post you had less experience. It sounds like you've been doing this for a while.
Here's some great footage of him in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wFVDm3uxM
I know most here are drag racers, and that's OK too. But fellas, that has to get your hearts pumping, right?
#27
Yes, the car is MUCH different than the photo above.
We have had great luck with our Advanced Induction heads on top of our 383 stroker build by S&S Automotive, the Santos family behind recent NHRA drag champion Rick Santos. I don't know where you are, but they are in San Leandro, CA. The top end of the car is pretty much untouched from Phil at AA--LT1 heads with the 200cc job, Jesel shaft mount rockers, solid roller lifters, and his matched cam. The stroker was built originally with a stock Corvette 4 bolt main LT1, but the mains developed a crack and I had them swap the internals over to a splayed 4 bolt main block. S&S originally built the bottom end for less than $5,000, but it was pretty close....call it even. They used a Scat Forged Crank, Scat rods, and off the shelf Manley gas ported pistons. I shared with George, Rick, Jeff and the Santos family all of the Callies and other "trick" stuff that read about on CamaroZ28.com, and he said the benefits would be negligble...that Phil's top end would do the work on the engine. (They were VERY IMPRESSED with the quality of Phil's heads when they recieved them even though they do "similar" work in house). The engine has gone 3 full seasons now and not skipped a beat, if not for the Chevy block failure, and I beat on that engine for several laps with little to no oil pressure to record a second place finish, and all the internals were perfect on the swap to the new block.
We have dyno'd the motor at 469 RWHP with that set up and a Dr. Gas 3" X-Scream exhaust dumped before the axles with 18" Lobak mufflers (like Moroso Spiral). I am very happy with the set up.
The engine in its glory during repairs after a major wreck a year ago...
The car as it sits now...
One of my favorite shots...
Here is the only online video I have INSIDE the car....crappy quality and after a REAL bad qualifying effort, you can HEAR the part throttle and lifting all over the track as I hold up for the cars in front of me, but you can "get the idea...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p9ybxDa9s8
We have had great luck with our Advanced Induction heads on top of our 383 stroker build by S&S Automotive, the Santos family behind recent NHRA drag champion Rick Santos. I don't know where you are, but they are in San Leandro, CA. The top end of the car is pretty much untouched from Phil at AA--LT1 heads with the 200cc job, Jesel shaft mount rockers, solid roller lifters, and his matched cam. The stroker was built originally with a stock Corvette 4 bolt main LT1, but the mains developed a crack and I had them swap the internals over to a splayed 4 bolt main block. S&S originally built the bottom end for less than $5,000, but it was pretty close....call it even. They used a Scat Forged Crank, Scat rods, and off the shelf Manley gas ported pistons. I shared with George, Rick, Jeff and the Santos family all of the Callies and other "trick" stuff that read about on CamaroZ28.com, and he said the benefits would be negligble...that Phil's top end would do the work on the engine. (They were VERY IMPRESSED with the quality of Phil's heads when they recieved them even though they do "similar" work in house). The engine has gone 3 full seasons now and not skipped a beat, if not for the Chevy block failure, and I beat on that engine for several laps with little to no oil pressure to record a second place finish, and all the internals were perfect on the swap to the new block.
We have dyno'd the motor at 469 RWHP with that set up and a Dr. Gas 3" X-Scream exhaust dumped before the axles with 18" Lobak mufflers (like Moroso Spiral). I am very happy with the set up.
The engine in its glory during repairs after a major wreck a year ago...
The car as it sits now...
One of my favorite shots...
Here is the only online video I have INSIDE the car....crappy quality and after a REAL bad qualifying effort, you can HEAR the part throttle and lifting all over the track as I hold up for the cars in front of me, but you can "get the idea...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p9ybxDa9s8
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