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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Hey guys I am new to the Camaro world!! glad to join the best class. I have a 97 z-28 m6 and it is bone stock. I am looking to get to 500HP can anyone tell me what I can do to get there. I am talking about all around the engine and the suspension.
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http://www.umiperformance.com/
http://www.elliottsportworks.com/
http://www.advancedinduction.com/

UMI is great for suspension and Lloyd Elliott and AI can get you squared away with a nice heads/cam set up. Look into all the basic bolt-ons (Headers, Cold air, throttle body, free mods) before you look into a heads/cam swap.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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how can you do free mods
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Actually it will cost a few bucks...not much maybe somewhere in the $100 range

Throttle Body By-pass kit
De-screen the MAF (Some don't rec it but I have never had any issues)
Intake elbow boot
160 thermostat
Air Foil ( If you don't bump up to a bigger throttle body )
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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its not free....but a pro charger will get you 500 horse !
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Throttle Body By-pass kit
De-screen the MAF (Some don't rec it but I have never had any issues)
Intake elbow boot
Air Foil ( If you don't bump up to a bigger throttle body )
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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pro charger is that like a super charger? if i do that will i have to fix anything on the car too handle it
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by markwaterman
pro charger is that like a super charger? if i do that will i have to fix anything on the car too handle it
no matter what you do to get 500 horse your going to need to invest in a rear end. I have a 97 z with a pro charger, yes its a super charger, (centrifugal) and if you keep it mild (5-6psi) around there you should be fine for a long time. It would greatly benefit to put a cam, valve springs, roller rockers, good pushrods, some headers.
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Only problem going w/ a pro charger is how much they cost. Plus he would need a few extra supporting mods to run along w/ the charger. It would end up being bank for all that plus he needs to dial in some suspension stuff as well. A good heads and cam combo with all the supporting mods should get him in the mid to high 400's especially being it's a m6. You don't ness need a new rear end although it wouldn't. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Use what ya got until it it breaks.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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thanks elliott anything else let me know like i said i am new to the camaro world and i am liking all the advice
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Here's a great link of "LT1 How to's" http://www.shbox.com/1/4th_gen_tech1.html and De-screening the Mass Air Flow is simply taking out the screen inside the MAF. It snaps out from a groove that's engraved inside the MAF. Here are some images of the following items I was telling you about "free mods" more or less.

1st pic is the 1LE intake boot, Air Foil, Throttle body Bypass kit, 160 thermostat
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
Only problem going w/ a pro charger is how much they cost. Plus he would need a few extra supporting mods to run along w/ the charger. It would end up being bank for all that plus he needs to dial in some suspension stuff as well. A good heads and cam combo with all the supporting mods should get him in the mid to high 400's especially being it's a m6. You don't ness need a new rear end although it wouldn't. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Use what ya got until it it breaks.
Your saying especially being it's a m6? What affect does that have? I know it affects what the dyno reads, not really the 1/4 mile time though does it?
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Originally Posted by markwaterman
Hey guys I am new to the Camaro world!! glad to join the best class. I have a 97 z-28 m6 and it is bone stock. I am looking to get to 500HP can anyone tell me what I can do to get there. I am talking about all around the engine and the suspension.
How much do you want to spend?
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Originally Posted by Camaro Jearmy
Your saying especially being it's a m6? What affect does that have? I know it affects what the dyno reads, not really the 1/4 mile time though does it?
A M6 will put down better power then a A4. Generally a heads and cam combo M6 will put down another 15-25rwh more then a Automatic. Mod for mod of course.
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Leave the MAF screened. Heads, Cam, Intake, full bolt ons and a 75shot + Tuned. Theres your 500hp. Cost? Oh, in the area of $1650 for LE2 package, $200 intake work, $550~ full exhaust, $250~ 1.6 RRs, NOS $500-$1000 (estimate), $150 injectors, $250 Tune. Then of course odds n ends cost and shipping That'll keep you from having to built a lower end up, like you'd need for supercharging for 500hp :\
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
A M6 will put down better power then a A4. Generally a heads and cam combo M6 will put down another 15-25rwh more then a Automatic. Mod for mod of course.
agreed. But at the track the automatic will make up for that lost power on the dyno correct?
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agreed. But at the track the automatic will make up for that lost power on the dyno correct?
Most of the time yea, if stalled at least.
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Originally Posted by Camaro Jearmy
agreed. But at the track the automatic will make up for that lost power on the dyno correct?
It really comes down to driver mod. If you can get a good launch and get decent traction, a stalled A4 should get a M6 99.9% of the time in the 1/8 and 1/4. Roll racing and autocross is a different story.
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