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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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i was referring to if its a daily driver. when you travel a 700 mile trip every three weekends you try your best to make the best mpg you can get. i was turning low 12s with a car that still got high 20s MPG. so yea. we all cant afford a BMW as our daily lol
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slo_camaro
why does everyone think 4.10s are the greatest? i mean if your using your car for just street/strip setting. but this kid/guy/girl/alien could have a daily driver to and from school and your gonna throw 4.10s in it and have shitty gas mileage. with stock 3.42 my car sucked out of the hole but got great gas. 4.10s were the opposite launched hard but shitty mileage. now i would suggest 3.73 you get the good launch (bearing you can launch your car) and you still will get good MPG. basically nothing on these cars are cheap. to be perfectly honest if you want a nice mod. 2500 (i know its not cheap) build a mild 383 and that will hold you good for a while. thats if you can get the money and afford to have your car down for a week or two. but what you do to your car varies on ALOT of things. Daily driver? Race car? Budget? Ability to work on it? Ability to handle the power it puts down. all this you must take into consideration. hell im 20 so you know where my mind is but i would worry about your suspn. and brakes to make sure you can get your *** out of trouble instead of throwing power to a car that suspn. wise cant handle it. good luck with whatever you do. sorry i kinda rambled on!
This is just riddled with holes.

You recommend a 383. A 383 with a set of heads/cam will spin higher than a stock shortblock. You move the power up in the powerband, increasing your available revs. Compensated with 4.10s to put the car into the usable revs.

Do you honestly think a 383 is going to keep your gas mileage the same? Even if you did rebuild a 383 for $2500, you'd probably spend about one-twentieth that cost in additional gas if you upgraded to 4.10s. A 383 is not cheap. Even $2500 is skimping it for a 383, not to mention all of the associated costs with the parts, including the valvetrain, heads (can't forget about those, can we?), etc.?

A lower gear (numerically higher) moves the available power your car makes into a more usable RPM. That's the point in changing gearing. Most will tell you 4.10s won't do jack to you gas mileage (Hey, you can pick any gear! That's the beauty of an M6!).

Once again, we bring up the "omg my gas mileage is going to suffer meow" topic. If you so worried about gas mileage (you obviously are, we don't know about the OP), buy a Yaris. Or maybe some cross-country skiis. Or a hot air balloon.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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I drove my Camaro daily for 6 years. I didn't drive it for gas mileage.

My BMW is a V8 and is raced all summer, still don't care about gas mileage.

Fun fact...they both get the SAME MPG.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Without drag radials doing 4.10s can be a mixed bag. Best 60' I cut on street tires with 4.10s was 2.3, and that is with full spohn suspension.

I noticed no difference in gas mileage, but once I went from 300rwhp to 350rwhp there was no hooking up in 1st or 2nd with the 4.10s on street tires.

So gears are a preference, I'm actually pleased to be back at 3.42s.

markwaterman, let us know what your budget looks like, it will help sort out what is logical.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Or a hot air balloon.
I don't think they get good MPG unless the wind is blowing in the correct direction.

YOU FAIL.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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well if you pay attention you will see that i have a 383 and yes it cost about 2500 for it. and before my auto i was running stock 3.42 and did me just fine. and you all are ******* retards and instead of reading every post you just read a few. i was stating if its a daily driver and has to make long trips. it would be nice to have somewhat decent mileage. in my 383 my MPG is fine and i will still surprise people when i tell them what little i have done to it.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slo_camaro
well if you pay attention you will see that i have a 383 and yes it cost about 2500 for it. and before my auto i was running stock 3.42 and did me just fine. and you all are ******* retards and instead of reading every post you just read a few. i was stating if its a daily driver and has to make long trips. it would be nice to have somewhat decent mileage. in my 383 my MPG is fine and i will still surprise people when i tell them what little i have done to it.
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Ugh, if we must go there...6th OD in the T56 is .50 and will net you UNDER 2k RPMs with 4.10s at 65 MPH. It's actually healthier when you don't lug the engine under load, a reason that a lot of guys go to 4.10s in the first place.

Anyways, when the OP states more info, we'll go from there.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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whats so funny ram air???
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
His car is a M6 he will be fine. In my last M6 I did 3.73s and to me it was a waste of money and always wanted 4.10s, This car I put in 4.10 and its 10x better. You actually notice it!lol! Hell Im 30 and have been down this road more than once or twice.lol
+1 going from 3.42 to 3.73 would be a waste of $$ for this guy. And he's not going to get "shitty" gas mileage by switching to 4.10. Sure he might lose out on a bit but it's nothing huge. Don't buy a V8 and expect good gas mileage. If it's such a concern then buy a Hybrid and get a "Go Green" tattoo while your at it.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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In all the cars Ive owned i never even tried to figure gas milage. I did notice my cavalier got better MPG than my bird though...........
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
In all the cars Ive owned i never even tried to figure gas milage. I did notice my cavalier got better MPG than my bird though...........
Lol...same here man. I've never sat down and tried to figure it out either.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Elliott whens your ride going to be done?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Elliott whens your ride going to be done?
New fuel pump is in so now I'm in the mix of having it tuned. Should have my thread up with pictures and some videos here soon.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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He sent me a PM, budget is going to be around $3k. Whats the current pricing on LE's packages? Maybe he could swing the lowest one and longtubes installed for $3k?
This is assuming he needs funds for install, as we don't know his level of mechanical ability.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by camar0corey
He sent me a PM, budget is going to be around $3k. Whats the current pricing on LE's packages? Maybe he could swing the lowest one and longtubes installed for $3k?
This is assuming he needs funds for install, as we don't know his level of mechanical ability.
For $3k, you can pick up the AI 200cc Eliminator package and have the long tubes of your choice, with cash left over.
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Agreed, I'd go with AI.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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I can do all the automotive my self I have a autoshop that lets me use it anytime I want for free. So the mech part is taking care of its all in parts only. about 3000 to spend in parts.
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Call up Lloyd Elliott he will set you up real nice!! My car makes about 425 to the rear wheels(stock bottom end) and has a Dana S60 rearend in it.
www.elliottsportworks.com
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Call up Lloyd Elliott he will set you up real nice!! My car makes about 425 to the rear wheels(stock bottom end) and has a Dana S60 rearend in it.
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+2 and you will save a little cash on top of that
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