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Old 03-02-2009, 05:53 PM
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Actually a 3rd gen weighs a couple hundred pounds less than a 4th gen.
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ive heard that the third getns handled much better and where more aerodynamical as well.

as for catbacks, im probably gunna go for magnaflow, and try and hide the tips. i cant afford the fancy ****.
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I had an '85 IROC. It was the sharpest lemon I've ever owned.
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Originally Posted by 8595transam
Actually a 3rd gen weighs a couple hundred pounds less than a 4th gen.
a few weight saving mods will fix that
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Originally Posted by BTC
I had an '85 IROC. It was the sharpest lemon I've ever owned.





I had an '85 Firebird SE. It was back to the dealer the day after I picked it up, for stuff that was wrong!! And it continued that way for about a year, until they finally got all the bugs worked out of it. After that, the car was really good for 9 years.

One time, I told the service manager at the dealership, who I'd gotten to know REALLY well, that I was going to "Lemon Law" the car. He says, "I wouldn't blame you if you did, but then we might have to do this all over again with another car"!!!
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4

One time, I told the service manager at the dealership, who I'd gotten to know REALLY well, that I was going to "Lemon Law" the car. He says, "I wouldn't blame you if you did, but then we might have to do this all over again with another car"!!!
ahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4




I had an '85 Firebird SE. It was back to the dealer the day after I picked it up, for stuff that was wrong!! And it continued that way for about a year, until they finally got all the bugs worked out of it. After that, the car was really good for 9 years.

One time, I told the service manager at the dealership, who I'd gotten to know REALLY well, that I was going to "Lemon Law" the car. He says, "I wouldn't blame you if you did, but then we might have to do this all over again with another car"!!!
Sounds kind of like my experience. It kept blowing transmission seals, or something, and they couldn't figure out why. I was young and stupid, or I would have probably lemon lawed my car as well. I didn't even know about lemon laws. I still loved that car. I got a blue one, and it was incredibly sharp. The car created a buzz when I got it back to my hometown. I wasn't really expecting that reaction. It managed to hold together, barely, until I got my '94.
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Originally Posted by BTC
I had an '85 IROC. It was the sharpest lemon I've ever owned.
haha the third gens were hit and miss
Old 03-04-2009, 11:39 AM
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I can't believe (although I'm too lazy to google) the factory curb weight of a 3rd gen F-body was less than any of the 4th gen models. In high school we use to tear up my buddy's father's '87 GTA and that car weighed a ton, and it was all metal. I remember how disgusted (at the time) we were when we saw the new 4th gen F-bodies at the Toronto auto show and realised they were mostly plastic. Then another buddy of ours got a '94 Z28 which we raped but felt so much lighter. That's really weird if its true the 3rd gens were lighter.

(How could my buddy's have "felt" so damn heavy... well, maybe because his 350 4-bbl did NOT even put out 200 hp!!! LOL)

LAME!!!!
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the worst part of the 3rd gens was the damn emission laws and for a few years only had 305's, lol but i did have the H.O.. i did end up putting 350's in the 3 i owned
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A buddy of mine had gmmg and it did sound good but I don't understand where it came from ?...what made it so popular to begin with? Personally I would do true duals !
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Originally Posted by riceburnerZ28
A buddy of mine had gmmg and it did sound good but I don't understand where it came from ?...what made it so popular to begin with? Personally I would do true duals !
ive always wondered where it came from too
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Originally Posted by BTC
I have correspondence directly from GMMG stating that their exhaust is not manufactured by Stainless Works.
If this is true then i do apologize, i had sworn that i had heard from a credible source that they were outsourced to gmmg but i will admit i have never talked to gmmg themselves about it.

As for as the aerodynamics, again its very misleading to look at a 4th gen and think that its more aerodynamic...you're not trying to "cut" the air you're trying to move through it if that makes since. I by no means am an expert but one nice thing to look at...how many 3rd gen top speed cars have you seen...a few right? How many 4th gens have you seen?? None that i can remember off the top of my head.
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The only system worth that kind of money is Bassani Exhaust System True Dual System w/''X'', Rear Split Exit with 3" Tips
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Originally Posted by DVS LT1
I can't believe (although I'm too lazy to google) the factory curb weight of a 3rd gen F-body was less than any of the 4th gen models. In high school we use to tear up my buddy's father's '87 GTA and that car weighed a ton, and it was all metal. I remember how disgusted (at the time) we were when we saw the new 4th gen F-bodies at the Toronto auto show and realised they were mostly plastic. Then another buddy of ours got a '94 Z28 which we raped but felt so much lighter. That's really weird if its true the 3rd gens were lighter.

(How could my buddy's have "felt" so damn heavy... well, maybe because his 350 4-bbl did NOT even put out 200 hp!!! LOL)

LAME!!!!

He might have had just a normal sus package, maybe had crappy tires along with being under powerd

Also the steering ratio could have been worse
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Originally Posted by slick1851
The only system worth that kind of money is Bassani Exhaust System True Dual System w/''X'', Rear Split Exit with 3" Tips
i dont think any system is worth the money, thats why hopefully im getting mine for well over half off
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Originally Posted by slick1851
He might have had just a normal sus package, maybe had crappy tires along with being under powerd

Also the steering ratio could have been worse
ACtually it had the "Performance suspension" plaque right on the passenger dash board. that along with the 245/45-16 unaroyal tires back then handled very well. Just felt like a damn brick! Looking back maybe the fact it rattled like a SOB made it feel heavy.

But then again just getting in opening and closing the doors makes me realise my '95 Z28's doors weigh half as much as those GTA doors. Meh...
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If my experience is any indication, fourth gens were a huge leap forward in quality in comparison to the 3rd gens.

And just to keep it on topic, GMMG is the cat's a$$.
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