stock windage tray
04-23-2009, 07:25 PM
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stock windage tray does it attach to the studs off the mains ? i have one in my oil pan and my builder said there wasnt another one there. am i missing something ? i didnt pull the pan and i dont want to get fucked in the *** after i go through the trouble of installing my engine just for it to give me a problem.
04-23-2009, 07:43 PM
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Unless someone previously took it off, your car had one and really needs one. You can pick them up on e-bay for cheap, but it really should have had one already...wierd.
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04-23-2009, 09:23 PM
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You do.
04-23-2009, 09:42 PM
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If you need to order one might consider something like the Moroso 23020.
Kicker is going to be if the guy left out the tray he probably used fasteners that are not compatible. Milodon makes studs that will work right(ARP wont). If you have main studs already use the Milodon. If you have main bolts then get some new stock bolts. Reason I say that is the block needs to be line honed with the fastener that will be used, at this point you need to stick with either stud or bolt whichever has been used.
Just a thought but are you using an aftermarket pan? If so some of them do mount a windage tray in the pan instead of on the main fastners.
Kicker is going to be if the guy left out the tray he probably used fasteners that are not compatible. Milodon makes studs that will work right(ARP wont). If you have main studs already use the Milodon. If you have main bolts then get some new stock bolts. Reason I say that is the block needs to be line honed with the fastener that will be used, at this point you need to stick with either stud or bolt whichever has been used.
Just a thought but are you using an aftermarket pan? If so some of them do mount a windage tray in the pan instead of on the main fastners.
04-23-2009, 10:21 PM
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lol yeah i do but that aint gonna happen lol
i already have ARP main studs for use with the windage tray. my oil pan has what my builder said was a windage tray built in and id did look like one. he said that if there was another one that connected to the studs it wouldnt fit. it just irked me and i asked him afew times if he had taken one off and he said he didnt 
If you need to order one might consider something like the Moroso 23020.
Kicker is going to be if the guy left out the tray he probably used fasteners that are not compatible. Milodon makes studs that will work right(ARP wont). If you have main studs already use the Milodon. If you have main bolts then get some new stock bolts. Reason I say that is the block needs to be line honed with the fastener that will be used, at this point you need to stick with either stud or bolt whichever has been used.
Just a thought but are you using an aftermarket pan? If so some of them do mount a windage tray in the pan instead of on the main fastners.
Kicker is going to be if the guy left out the tray he probably used fasteners that are not compatible. Milodon makes studs that will work right(ARP wont). If you have main studs already use the Milodon. If you have main bolts then get some new stock bolts. Reason I say that is the block needs to be line honed with the fastener that will be used, at this point you need to stick with either stud or bolt whichever has been used.
Just a thought but are you using an aftermarket pan? If so some of them do mount a windage tray in the pan instead of on the main fastners.
04-23-2009, 11:05 PM
#16
Oh, I didn't realize it still has the stock oil pan. The stock oil pan does not have a windage tray. It has a baffle down in the bottle the the pickup slips down under, other than that it has nothing. That is probably what you though was the windage tray.
04-24-2009, 05:50 AM
#18
GM felt it necessary to put a windage tray in even the b-bodies with a 5500rpm limit. Guessing you will take the new motor to 6500, if GM thought it was necessary at 5500 I don't think there is any question at 6500.
As said the stock pan has a baffle in the bottom but that is not the same as a windage tray.
Some times those old school gen 1 guys are a little off in their advise.
One local guy would not believe that LT1s had a windage tray till I showed him one on the stand, then it was a complete surprise as if I had never told him before.
Most guys find the ARP windage tray studs to be too short for mounting the stock tray with a stock or stroker crank, like I said though Milodon makes ones that work. With a lighter weight smaller counterweight crank I could see the ARPs working. Part of me wonders why the ARP studs are troublesome on the LT1, got to be something simple like maybe out main bolt holes are tapped deeper.
As said the stock pan has a baffle in the bottom but that is not the same as a windage tray.
Some times those old school gen 1 guys are a little off in their advise.
One local guy would not believe that LT1s had a windage tray till I showed him one on the stand, then it was a complete surprise as if I had never told him before.
Most guys find the ARP windage tray studs to be too short for mounting the stock tray with a stock or stroker crank, like I said though Milodon makes ones that work. With a lighter weight smaller counterweight crank I could see the ARPs working. Part of me wonders why the ARP studs are troublesome on the LT1, got to be something simple like maybe out main bolt holes are tapped deeper.
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04-24-2009, 07:20 AM
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