Car is wrecked! Lucky to be alive!
05-17-2009 | 11:13 PM
#61
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Glad you're ok man. Too bad about the car.
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
Based on what you brought up, it is possible that the track could be found a bit more liable for what happened.
This should not happen to anyone. Sorry it happend to Tony.
05-17-2009 | 11:18 PM
#62
Hey:
I am glad you are ok, sorry to see your car is trashed, but by any chance did you contact the local police and get an accident report, possibly a hit and run report, as I am not familiar with Texas law but in most places any incident that happens with a licensed motor vehicle and any other property, vehicle, or person must be reported to the police and insurance companies. If you did you may be able to collect from his insurance, as well as sue him for what they may not pay for as well, as fault and negligence would be already determined against him. A traffic citation may not be able to be issued, but as he hit you, failure to yeild or wreckless driving maybe can be issued if in the pit road area, its legally a private area, but the rules of the road still apply, like a hit and run in a parking lot. Just a thought
When In Doubt Do Without
Dub
I am glad you are ok, sorry to see your car is trashed, but by any chance did you contact the local police and get an accident report, possibly a hit and run report, as I am not familiar with Texas law but in most places any incident that happens with a licensed motor vehicle and any other property, vehicle, or person must be reported to the police and insurance companies. If you did you may be able to collect from his insurance, as well as sue him for what they may not pay for as well, as fault and negligence would be already determined against him. A traffic citation may not be able to be issued, but as he hit you, failure to yeild or wreckless driving maybe can be issued if in the pit road area, its legally a private area, but the rules of the road still apply, like a hit and run in a parking lot. Just a thought
When In Doubt Do Without
Dub
05-18-2009 | 04:09 AM
#63
Glad you're ok man. Too bad about the car.
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
On the other hand you dont need any instruction to go to the DPS office and take a driving test and that happens on a public roadway. It is his fault for not taking the time to educate himself on how it works. First time i went to a track i took like two hours to familiarize myself with it all, and that was cuz i didnt wanna look like an idiot. Ultimately it appears to me track/moron combo let to a near fatality, guess we need to look out for dumbshits even when we shouldn't have to.
05-18-2009 | 06:41 AM
#64
Hey:
I am glad you are ok, sorry to see your car is trashed, but by any chance did you contact the local police and get an accident report, possibly a hit and run report, as I am not familiar with Texas law but in most places any incident that happens with a licensed motor vehicle and any other property, vehicle, or person must be reported to the police and insurance companies. If you did you may be able to collect from his insurance, as well as sue him for what they may not pay for as well, as fault and negligence would be already determined against him. A traffic citation may not be able to be issued, but as he hit you, failure to yeild or wreckless driving maybe can be issued if in the pit road area, its legally a private area, but the rules of the road still apply, like a hit and run in a parking lot. Just a thought
When In Doubt Do Without
Dub
I am glad you are ok, sorry to see your car is trashed, but by any chance did you contact the local police and get an accident report, possibly a hit and run report, as I am not familiar with Texas law but in most places any incident that happens with a licensed motor vehicle and any other property, vehicle, or person must be reported to the police and insurance companies. If you did you may be able to collect from his insurance, as well as sue him for what they may not pay for as well, as fault and negligence would be already determined against him. A traffic citation may not be able to be issued, but as he hit you, failure to yeild or wreckless driving maybe can be issued if in the pit road area, its legally a private area, but the rules of the road still apply, like a hit and run in a parking lot. Just a thought
When In Doubt Do Without
Dub
I'm bet any insurance contract will state that any damage/injury that occurs on a racetrack, or even racing on public streets will not be covered, no way he'll be able to collect from his insurance company. Only chance is going after him personally but I don't know what good that's gonna do, all he has to say is he thought he was supposed to go and he will point to the track as being at fault.
I's bet Tony would have a better case against the track for the unsafe operating procedures than against the driver.
05-18-2009 | 10:04 AM
#66
Glad you're ok man. Too bad about the car.
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
Ya know you go to places, any place and they tell you where to sit, where to stand, where to go what to do, what not to do, I gotta say if I were you I'd be MUCH more pissed at the track officials and the track management.
The driver might be some hillbilly f*ck but maybe he really thought he was supposed to go (because he really doesn't know and obviously received ZERO intruction) and to HIS shock you turn off in front of him.
I know at Etown whenever a driver is on a bye run an offical PHYSICALLY STANDS IN FRONT of the vehicle that has to wait for the next stage. If your track had that practice in place this wouldn't have happened to you.
If I were him (and I am most certainly NOT) I probably wouldn't offer to pay either considering he probably really had no idea he was doing anything wrong and this was very preventable if the track did what it should have. JMHO.
-Mark
Maybe the track officials could have done better but I have never seen anyone start a run from the burnout box. The guy driving the truck had his head up his ***, saw Tony's car leave and decided to leave too. It was his fault plain and simple. He knew it and is why he fled the track and offered no help or apologies.
05-18-2009 | 11:33 AM
#69
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PM me the details of the truck. I'm in the diesel community and these types of people make us look real bad.
A little group of us were planning on going up to SA, from Laredo soon. If you let me know a few details on teh truck, approximate year, auto/standard/reg cab, color, lifted, etc, I might spot him on one of the boards.
Merrick
A little group of us were planning on going up to SA, from Laredo soon. If you let me know a few details on teh truck, approximate year, auto/standard/reg cab, color, lifted, etc, I might spot him on one of the boards.
Merrick
05-18-2009 | 12:36 PM
#71
Here's my question..just thought of it.
Regardless of if it happened on the Track.. Wouldn't this be considered a hit 'n run in a way?
I can understand the track being private property and having a form to exclude them from liability, but does that also exclude the fact to make a police report?
The reason I ask is if you think about it, I could go to the Track, ram someone's car on the track, and leave just like that **** head did and have no consequence if I don't feel like paying for it.
You may have room to play with that one Tony since you were slowing down in the slow down zone and not racing.
Then again if you went to the Cops they may say that you are liable for not looking in your mirror or behind you eventhough the guy broke the rules and was being unsafe.
Hell that guy could get contributing to an accident in that sense since he wasn't following the track rules.
Just a thought..
Regardless of if it happened on the Track.. Wouldn't this be considered a hit 'n run in a way?
I can understand the track being private property and having a form to exclude them from liability, but does that also exclude the fact to make a police report?
The reason I ask is if you think about it, I could go to the Track, ram someone's car on the track, and leave just like that **** head did and have no consequence if I don't feel like paying for it.
You may have room to play with that one Tony since you were slowing down in the slow down zone and not racing.
Then again if you went to the Cops they may say that you are liable for not looking in your mirror or behind you eventhough the guy broke the rules and was being unsafe.
Hell that guy could get contributing to an accident in that sense since he wasn't following the track rules.
Just a thought..
05-18-2009 | 12:44 PM
#72
I'd put pressure on the Driver and the track.
Like most have said, you're lucky.
It's actually a good thing that you didn't beat the hell out of the guy, it will look better in court that you didn't act harshly (even if you were stopped) and you are only trying to get what you are out.
Like most have said, you're lucky.
It's actually a good thing that you didn't beat the hell out of the guy, it will look better in court that you didn't act harshly (even if you were stopped) and you are only trying to get what you are out.
05-18-2009 | 03:48 PM
#74
you're a stronger man then i am. i would've blacked out and beat his face in.
hopefully you can get your car up and running quick man that's a great looking car you've got there.
hopefully you can get your car up and running quick man that's a great looking car you've got there.
05-18-2009 | 05:37 PM
#76
I will have all the parts at the shop tomorrow. Give me a call Tony.
05-19-2009 | 09:35 PM
#78
Tony, dude...sorry about this bs misfortune...Hope you get her fixed up fast and back on the track. The track needs to be heald responsible for not staging him and holding him up with a hand motion. If he broke the tracks rules is about the only way he could be held responsible for the situation and your best bet for a suit.
05-19-2009 | 10:02 PM
#79
A damage like that aint as cheap as you think. The parts can be found everywhere, the problem is the damage behind those parts, and also getting a good shop to make sure everything is aligned and perfect.
05-19-2009 | 11:11 PM
#80
Well I hope you're feeling a little better now, and hopefully you can get the car back where it needs to be for the shootout, I'm sure you'll work something out, and for the truck driver I think he needs to be banned from the track and at the very least pay for the damage, good luck with everything and keep up the good work. LT1'S 