LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

spark advance at idle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 08:47 PM
  #1  
ElkySS's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 31
From: Houston Tx
Default spark advance at idle

what should it be? im trying to figure out why my car cuts out above 5500 rpm. i think its advancing the timing too far. its idling with about 42 degrees. that seems a bit high to me.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:27 PM
  #2  
wrd1972's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 5
From: Central Kentucky
Default

Thats high. Mine bounces around 26-28.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:18 PM
  #3  
shbox's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,145
Likes: 61
From: Little Rock, AR
Default

Originally Posted by ElkySS
what should it be? im trying to figure out why my car cuts out above 5500 rpm. i think its advancing the timing too far. its idling with about 42 degrees. that seems a bit high to me.
Perhaps that is high, but that does not mean timing at any other time will be higher. It does not have to progress in a linear fashion. It can be anything the programming tells it to be. Perhaps dissecting the tune you have would be a good idea (assuming it is non-stock).
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:49 PM
  #4  
7.0 camaro's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: knoxville tn
Default

i have mine at 35.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:52 PM
  #5  
kinglt-1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,897
Likes: 254
From: Ft. Wayne, IN
Default

Maybe it's the opti?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:04 AM
  #6  
gregrob's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 4
From: 6,000+ feet
Default

Watch what happens when you go wot to redline with the spark advance.

Mine is pretty aggressive, 42deg at the lower rpms but tapers off after 4500 or so to high 30's, and I'm not getting any knock retard.

Too much spark advance would show itself through knock retard long before it would make your car "cut out" I would think. Look at knock retard and if it's excessive, then you might be on to something. Most likely though it has to do with the ignition, with the opti being #1 suspect.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:25 AM
  #7  
great421's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,170
Likes: 2
Default

Check your plug wires; if they are routed too close together that will also cause a high RPM miss - ask me know I know!

Originally Posted by gregrob
Watch what happens when you go wot to redline with the spark advance.

Mine is pretty aggressive, 42deg at the lower rpms but tapers off after 4500 or so to high 30's, and I'm not getting any knock retard.

Too much spark advance would show itself through knock retard long before it would make your car "cut out" I would think. Look at knock retard and if it's excessive, then you might be on to something. Most likely though it has to do with the ignition, with the opti being #1 suspect.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:30 AM
  #8  
ElkySS's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 31
From: Houston Tx
Default

new gm opti, it has been tuned but it had a bad opti on it at the time he was tuning it. he just tried to get it as close as he could, basically guessing. its also running rich as hell which i believe would make it a little more knock resistant
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:42 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE