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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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Question 1.6RR on Stock LT1??

So can i put 1.6RR on a stock LT1 without changing the springs or anything else? if i do what could happen?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:05 AM
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You can...but springs are recommended. I've done it several times with no problems but most people will advise you to at least upgrade to the LT4 springs for security reasons.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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I did and had no problems for several years. I wasn't reving it to the moon though. As said before it would be a good idea to upgrade your springs, now your gonna compress already worn springs a little further. As far as what could happen most likley thing would be valve float at higher rpm costing power, worst case is a spring breaks and drops a valve the rest is history. It looks like you've already put em on!
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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Considering that LT4 springs are almost cheaper than a tank of gas, it would be stupid not to install them with the 1.6 rr's. The stock springs will be very close to coil bind and if that happens, the valve will drop and you will be replacing the motor as a result of going cheap. But its your motor.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Roger that i will purchase some good springs! i have a cam i want to install in the near future its the CC503.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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i have a set of crane gold race rockers, 1.6 ratio, sa, 3/8th stud, that i used on my cc503 setup for sale, id let them go cheap, send me a pm.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
Considering that LT4 springs are almost cheaper than a tank of gas, it would be stupid not to install them with the 1.6 rr's. The stock springs will be very close to coil bind and if that happens, the valve will drop and you will be replacing the motor as a result of going cheap. But its your motor.
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Roger that i will purchase some good springs! i have a cam i want to install in the near future its the CC503.
Nice. I have the same cam and I love it.
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You can put just 1.6 RR on a stock cammed car and it will run. But given the age and ratings for the stock spring I especially wouldnt recommend them now. Doing springs is not a hard job. Its a PITA but not hard. Plus if you do a cam with in a year or so that meets the requirement, its one less step if you go up on the bump stick.
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All good advise already given, I'd recommend new springs as well, as stated they are not expensive, good insurance and can be done in a couple hours taking your time and that's including hooking up the electric bump start to set the lash, etc.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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If youre gonna do the cam later at least put a set of comp 918's on it now. Comp pn 26918
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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alright how hard is it to change the valve springs whith the motor still in the car and how do i accomplish this task?
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Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28SS
alright how hard is it to change the valve springs whith the motor still in the car and how do i accomplish this task?
Either get the crane valve spring tool for a LT1 or get Tim's valve spring tool.

You'll want to get new valve seals and hardened pushrods.

This will give you an idea of what you have to do:

http://shbox.com/ci/valve_spring_swap.html
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Either get the crane valve spring tool for a LT1 or get Tim's valve spring tool.

You'll want to get new valve seals and hardened pushrods.

This will give you an idea of what you have to do:

http://shbox.com/ci/valve_spring_swap.html

thanks a lot guys thats why I keep coming to this site you guys are awesome!

I have another LT1 Engine i got my 1.6RR off of they are stamped 1.6 26 05 what RR are these?

Also the engine has different valve springs how can you tell what brand and what they are?
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Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28SS
thanks a lot guys thats why I keep coming to this site you guys are awesome!

I have another LT1 Engine i got my 1.6RR off of they are stamped 1.6 26 05 what RR are these?

Also the engine has different valve springs how can you tell what brand and what they are?
Post a picture. You'll probably want to pull a couple springs off and test them with spring test gauge.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Post a picture. You'll probably want to pull a couple springs off and test them with spring test gauge.
yeah i could tell they were different then my stock springs. i will post a picture when i get home in a few hours.

where can i pick up a spring test gauge?
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I have 1.6's with stock springs, but I only occasionally(sp?) rev to 6k, I try hard not to go over that. Springs will be upgraded later this year when the 227 goes in

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Originally Posted by Bowtie4life
I have 1.6's with stock, springs, but I only rev to 6k, I try hard not to go over that. prings will be upgraded later this year when the 227 goes in
Even then you are walking on thin ice. I wouldn't if I were you.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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The stock springs are maxed out with stock frickin rockers past 5800 rpms. I dont know why anyone would consider putting 1.6's on top of them and thinking it's ok.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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does anyone know what springs these are?
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