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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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so i was doing some tuning this afternoon, and i wrote a file a few times. Finally i was writing a file with tunercats, and it wrote, showed write complete, but didnt kick the fuel pumps. It only turned on the cooling fan and now the car has no life. cannot connect to the PCM, cannot do anything it just cranks with no start. is the wonderful piece of **** called the LTx PCM done? Im gonna go pick up one out of a 95 caprice and try that but wanted your thoughts
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Sounds toasted to me!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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yeah just plugged in another one and it runs great, damn thing
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so i did 3 writes to this pcm, did the same thing. No communication, instead of the fuel pump kicking after the write the fans came on. Still starts and runs though like ****. WTF is going on this has never happened and ive done probably 50 writes on this car with no problems!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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No offense...but it sounds like user error.
Are you sure you are tuning the pcm properly?
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yes, there is no user error. How can i **** it up if i click "program ECM" and it fries it?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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would like to add that i used a backup file to be sure it wasnt a corrupt file, and also installed a different CATS program directly from the website to be sure that wast corrupt as well. I find it odd that after this many successful attempts it suddenly does this 2 times
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Somethin might be screwed up with your cable or interface maybe idk...
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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well i got another computer out there and another cable. Im gonna go get another PCM tomorrow and give it a shot again, hope it works. I dont understand that CATS shows a good write, but the car doesnt seem to take it
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I've never had that happen where it showed success and failed, but I've had a few dozen successful writes on several cars and one failure (where it was obvious), so my failure rate is pretty close to yours.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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you using the cats tuner program to write? Or Winflash? Use Winflash it's free for 30 days. Make sure wireless, virus scan and similiar are OFF when doing writes.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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using the cats program to write. Like i said i have had probably 50-60 successful writes up till today, never changed anything
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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Your original PCM may not be fried, since it got to 100% complete. Try it again now that it's been out of the car. (Sometimes in this situation it just needs a power reset.)

Your second PCM definitely isn't fried, since the engine starts.

Sounds like you have bad wiring/serial converter/something like that.


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there is no user error.
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One failure = bad luck

Repeating the same thing and expecting different results = bad user
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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I have something similar like that happen to me, like said, disconnect the batter to let the unit power down. Then start it, it should fire right up.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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tired both pcms today after having them out all night, nothing. still no connection. Does the PCM go into a fail-safe or something? I cannot figure out why the fans would be kicked on otherwise. Also i plugged into another car today and was succesful in connecting on the first try so its not the cable or program.
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Yea if the fans come on full time(even when cold) the pcm is in limp mode.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Try throwing your lt1 off a cliff, their a pain in the *** to deal with.
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Originally Posted by lt1phantom791
Try throwing your lt1 off a cliff, their a pain in the *** to deal with.
Hopefully that was sarcasm, I'm assuming it was becaue you have LT1 in your screen name.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1phantom791
Try throwing your lt1 off a cliff, their a pain in the *** to deal with.
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maybe the new pcm requires a different definition type, did you make sure when loaded on the new pcm all the values were the same as on the old pcm? I know my car has a weird definition file, the rarest of the 3 I guess so all the values would be off unless I loaded it with my specific type selected
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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well the 2 computers i used yesterday are networked, and must have had some type of virus or something. I drug the old IBM 486 desktop out there today and put another PCM in, did probably 20 writes to it tonight with no problems

So the question i have now is, can i send these 2 PCMs out to somebody and maybe they can get them back into service?

Also, i was standing next to it leaning on a 8lb sledge, it was all i could do to not smash that ******* thing. One of the PCMs took a 30 yard flight across the yard though, lol. God i hate LT1s
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