saylorZ28

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ok my qeuston is i am running a cc 503 got my heads at the shop and i need to know what would be best vavle set up my pistons are trw forged with 100+ dome.. stock heads and the 503with these pistons should i stay stock vavle or go bigger ? it will be a 355.. i plan on porting these heads ... anyone run this combo? i know i am goin to clay my pistons to e sure but i am wondering if this will be a good setup ... i appreiciate any advice

Stroked96Bowtie

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For the most part, aftermarket pistons are very forgiving with valve sizes. Majority come with big enough reliefs to not have to worry about it. The piston manufacturer should be able to give you some idea also. At minimum you should be able to hold the 2.02/1.94 valves.

Since you have it apart I would definatley get some work done to those heads. The power is made in the heads, you build the bottom end just to hold it. Not sure your budget, but might be worth consulting AI or LE to see what they think on the porting options.

ss.slp.ls1

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I have never seen 1.94" exhaust valves...

OP. Send your heads out to get them ported and set up for 2.00" int/1.56" exh valves.
I'd send your heads out to Ai.

saylorZ28

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yea i know this and i would love to let them do my heads but i am bugeting and have sum experience in porting ..so my machinist wants me to stay stock valves but i want a bigger valve... but i am worried about clearance with that big dome and a cc503 with 1.6rr since i am uping the compresson i want to move air more freely

ss.slp.ls1

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You can get a really high compression engine with just aftermarket flat top pistons (5cc valve reliefs), milling your heads, and using a thinner gasket. What compression ratio are you going for? You should definitely calculate your DCR and see if those domed pistons are worth it.

saylorZ28

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what is that and how do you do it lol... it is .030 over with 100 thousand dome and stock combustion camber 64 cc i think

ScrapSilicon

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when I was younger I'd see them ..
http://www.chicagoconnection.us/inde...roducts_id=683 426 Hemi

ss.slp.ls1

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DCR is dynamic compression ratio. That takes into account your stroke, bore, chamber size, deck height, piston style, gasket thickness, valve events, etc. The DCR will also dictate your octane requirements. Look up a DCR equation or calculator.

LOL, I mean I have never seen them used on a LT1.

saylorZ28

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tried finding one no luck

saylorZ28

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how do i figure my piston cc..? and gasket thickness... what is the stock stroke? deck volume?

saylorZ28

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ok i got everything but my piston volume .... how do i calculate that?

ss.slp.ls1

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Tisk tisk...no one reads the stickies...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...ml#post2682252

COMPRESSION RATIO

Compression ratio is a term that all of us are familiar with, but very few of us really understand. Whether we are milling down stock heads, swapping for some aftermarket ones, changing the stroke, the pistons or just simply using a thinner head gasket, changes to you engine combo have a profound affect your compression ratio and, consequently, on overall performance and drivability. With that in mind, I developed and easy to use formula to calculate compression ratio.

Compression ratio is defined as "the volume of the cylinder at BDC (bottom dead center) divided by the volume of the cylinder at TDC (top dead center).


CR = (Vbdc/Vtdc)

Without getting into too much detail, we can expand this to the following equation:



CR = [{(B/2)^2 * S*Pi}+Vcc+Vp+{(B/2)^2*Pi*(DH+TG)}]
[{(B/2)^2*Pi*(DH+TG)}+Vcc+Vp]

Where:

CR= Compression Ratio
B = Cylinder bore (Stock LT1 = 4.00in)
S = Stroke (Stock LT1 = 3.48in)
Vcc= Combustion Chamber Volume (Stock LT1 = 58cc = 3.539 in3)
Vp= Piston Volume (Stock LT1 = 4.5cc = 0.274606 in3)
DH = Deck Height (Stock LT1 = 0.015 in)
TG = Head Gasket Crush Thickness (Stock LT1 = 0.05 in)
Pi = 3.1415


As long as all other variables remain constant, you can change a single variable (for example larger/smaller combustion chamber size) to determine your new Compression Ratio.

*Convert Cubic Cenimeters (ccs) to Cubic Inches (in^3) using the following formula

in^3 = (CCs/16.387064)

Keep in mind that the above is how you calculate your SCR (static compression ratio). You need to take into account your valve events to calculate your DCR (dynamic compression ratio).

P.S. Just changing a couple things in the above formula like piston volume (aftermarket flat top pistons), gasket thickness (thinner gasket), and chamber volume (milling heads) can increase your CR to a nice streetable CR that can run on pump gas.

saylorZ28

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n i found the stick and used most of the stock variables but i cant and aint very good at math .... in other words i dont know how to do that math problem ok

ss.slp.ls1

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Here is some food for thought. Stock compression is ~10.3-10.4:1.
Keeping all things stock and just using a GM Impala head gasket (.028" compressed height, stock is .051") you get a compression ratio ~11:1.
Now factor in a set of aftermarket forged aluminum flat top pistons with 5cc valve reliefs (I don't see how that wouldn't yeild a smaller piston volume) and your compression ratio will be higher still. You can even do a slight mill on the heads. Choising wisely you can get a compression ratio ~11.5:1. The fact that our engines are reverse cooled allows us to get away with higher CR without detonating. So you have to determine how high of a compression ratio you want and if it suits your build plans.

Low N Slow

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I'm not sure but I don't think you will be using pistons with a .100 dome on an LT1 and run pump gas. The most common is a flat top with 5cc valve reliefs. You better be checking to PTV clearance if you decide to use the pistons you have.